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Originally posted by a-being-?
So you the Masons help people by giving to charety right? can you give and examples of the organisations you fund ? the choice of funding is decided by whom? Is it always the same organisations that are funded?
Originally posted by a-being-?
When you see presidents swear on to the masonic bible thus becomming president is that just a pose?
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Still it is my personal opinion Masonry does not do enough within individual communities.. specifically to help children within education, which is the biggest burden to parents.
Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by Masonic Light
Thanks for the insight. I thoughtfor a moment that it referred to actual landmarks. OK, you can stop laughing now.
AIMS AND RELATIONSHIPS OF THE CRAFT
Accepted by the Grand Lodge, September 7, 1949
In August, 1938, the Grand Lodges of England, Ireland,
and Scotland each agreed upon and issued a statement
identical in terms except that the name of the issuing
Grand Lodge appeared throughout. This statement, which
was entitled ‘Aims and Relationships of the Craft’, was in
the following terms:
1. From time to time the United Grand Lodge of England
has deemed it desirable to set forth in precise form the
aims of Freemasonry as consistently practised under its
Jurisdiction since it came into being as an organized body
in 1717, and also to define the principles governing its
relations with those other Grand Lodges with which it is in
fraternal accord.
2. In view of representations which have been received,
and of statements recently issued which have distorted or
obscured the true objects of Freemasonry, it is once again
considered necessary to emphasize certain fundamental
principles of the Order.
3. The first condition of admission into, and membership
of, the Order is a belief in the Supreme Being. This is
essential and admits of no compromise.
4. The Bible, referred to by Freemasons as the Volume of
the Sacred Law, is always open in the Lodges. Every
Candidate is required to take his Obligation on that book
or on the Volume which is held by his particular creed to
impart sanctity to an oath or promise taken upon it.
5. Everyone who enters Freemasonry is, at the outset,
strictly forbidden to countenance any act which may have
a tendency to subvert the peace and good order of society;
he must pay due obedience to the law of any state in which
he resides or which may afford him protection, and he
must never be remiss in the allegiance due to the Sovereign
of his native land.
6. While English Freemasonry thus inculcates in each of
its members the duties of loyalty and citizenship, it
reserves to the individual the right to hold his own opinion
with regard to public affairs. But neither in any Lodge, not
at any time in his capacity as a Freemason, is he permitted
to discuss or to advance his views on theological or
political questions.
7. The Grand Lodge has always consistently refused to
express any opinion on questions of foreign or domestic
state policy either at home or abroad, and it will not allow
its name to be associated with any action, however
humanitarian it may appear to be, which infringes its
unalterable policy of standing aloof from every question
affecting the relations between one government and
another, or between political parties, or questions as to
rival theories of government.
8. The Grand Lodge is aware that there do exist Bodies,
styling themselves Freemasons, which do not adhere to
these principles, and while that attitude exists the Grand
Lodge of England refuses absolutely to have any relations
with such Bodies, or to regard them as Freemasons.
9. The Grand Lodge of England is a Sovereign and
independent Body practising Freemasonry only within the
three Degrees and only within the limits defined in its
Constitution as ‘pure Antient Masonry’. It does not
recognize or admit the existence of any superior Masonic
authority, however styled.
10. On more than one occasion the Grand Lodge has
refused, and will continue to refuse, to participate in
Conferences with so-called International Associations
claiming to represent Freemasonry, which admit to
membership Bodies failing to conform strictly to the
principles upon which the Grand Lodge of England is
founded. The Grand Lodge does not admit any such claim,
nor can its views be represented by any such Association.
11. There is no secret with regard to any of the basic
principles of Freemasonry, some of which have been stated
above. The Grand Lodge will always consider the
recognition of those Grand Lodges which profess and
practise, and can show that they have consistently
professed and practised, those established and unaltered
principles, but in no circumstances will it enter into
discussion with a view to any new or varied interpretation
of them. They must be accepted and practised
wholeheartedly and in their entirety by those who desire to
be recognized as Freemasons by the United Grand Lodge
of England.
The Grand Lodge of England has been asked if it still stands
by this declaration, particularly in regard to paragraph 7.
The Grand Lodge of England replied that it stood by every
word of the declaration, and has since asked for the
opinion of the Grand Lodges of Ireland and Scotland.
A conference has been held between the three Grand
Lodges, and all unhesitatingly reaffirm the statement that
was pronounced in 1938: nothing in present-day affairs
has been found that could cause them to recede from
that attitude.
If Freemasonry once deviated from its course by
expressing an opinion on political or theological questions,
it would be called upon not only publicly to approve
or denounce any movement which might arise in the
future, but would sow the seeds of discord among its
own members.
The three Grand Lodges are convinced that it is only by
this rigid adherence to this policy that Freemasonry has
survived the constantly changing doctrines of the outside
world, and are compelled to place on record their complete
disapproval of any action which may tend to permit the
slightest departure from the basic principles of
Freemasonry. They are strongly of opinion that if any of
the three Grand Lodges does so, it cannot maintain a claim
to be following the Antient Landmarks of the Order, and
must ultimately face disintegration.
Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
...I do know that the Egyptians often like to think of themselves as Gods and want to be worshipped as Gods.
Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by Straighten Arrow
Might I ask what is meant when you say, "the on true God has won anyway?" Just out of curiosity what was the battle being fought, against whom, for what purpose, and who is the One True God that you refer to?
Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
It looks nice Axeman, I myself would love to go see the great pyramids some day!
Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
So I take it you are on the other side of the fence about the ancient Egyptians then?
Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by Straighten Arrow
My God and the one that you don't believe in.
Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
It all does seem to point back to an ancient gnosis and paganism in more ways then one doesn't it? And it does seem to refuse to acknowlege one's faith and take it out of context in a cunning manner as well.
Originally posted by lazy1981
Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by Straighten Arrow
My God and the one that you don't believe in.
I did'nt know that GOD belonged to anyone ("My GOD") and how do you know that I don't believe in Him?