How Jackinthebox got jacked-up by the police, page 5
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reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 09:02 AM by dirtonwater
reply to post by sir_chancealot



I'll pardon your ignorance. Stupid is stupid, no matter where you are. With your logic, I could sit on my front porch with a rifle and take pot shots at people walking by. "but judge, I was on my property".


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:23 AM by Blaine91555
Originally posted by jackinthebox
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post by Blaine91555




Did you or your friends or someone who was partying with you break your neighbors window?


Honestly, that really has no direct bearing on this particular incident as it had developed, but whatever knowledge that exists regarding the breaking of the window has already been relayed to the prosecutor.
[edit on 3/27/0808 by jackinthebox]



I was forced to do some work, so I did not see your answer until now. You would make a great politician Jack. Spin is indeed a tool in your tool-chest. Good luck with this and I hope it all comes out well and as it should in the end.



reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:25 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by DINSTAAR



The 90-day window to file a Notice of Claim has expired.

Out of all the lawyers I called, only one would even talk to me about it. His advice was about what I expected. No broken bones, no case. The only way I would have a leg to stand on in a civil suit, would be if I was completely exonerated at trial, which he predicted would not happen and does not happen for that very reason in cases like these. Innocent or not, I have never seen anyone beat a charge like this.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:30 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by jpm1602



Ah, I see. I was under the impression you and your buds were hanging on the porch kicking back some suds.


We had the front door wide open. It was a nice night. The porch is small though, not like a nice deck to set out chairs on or anything.


I know this sounds woosy, but I have gotten out of more than one jam by being as humble and respectful as possible to peace officers as opposed to asking them if Andy gave them any bullets that day.


It's good advice to be as respectful as possible, and exactly what I did until they made it clear that one way or another this was not going to be my night.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:47 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by dirtonwater



So you were drunk, armed, and making fun of the cops. This is the exact problem with losers that complain about brutality.


If someone was drunk, armed, and making fun of you on their own property, and you attacked them with a weapon, we would be discussing a justifiable homicide.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:49 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by dirtonwater



With your logic, I could sit on my front porch with a rifle and take pot shots at people walking by.


Since when is carrying a weapon the same as taking "pot-shots" at people walking by?

I fail to see any logic in your analogy.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:51 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by PokeyJoe



Also, why in the world would the cops taze you over 10 times if you were just laying there not resisting at all?


This is precisely the question I intend to ask them when this case is finished.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 12:12 PM by goosdawg
reply to post by jackinthebox



Thanks for casting some more light on this story with us jack.

Hope things work out for you.

I know it can be tough to go after dirty cops in a small town, from personal experience.

If you were to "win" you'd be marked for persecution from that day forward, for as long as you remained in that community.

Living out of your car (also been there done that, in fact; I'm one smart remark from being there again, right now, although, in the past, it was often a choice I made rather than something forced upon me) makes you an easier target for the "boys in blue."

It's one thing for them to come to your door to harass you, it's another thing entirely and so much easier for them to just pull you over for a "broken headlight" every time they see you, know what I mean?

Hang in there man, and best of luck to you.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 12:26 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by goosdawg



It's one thing for them to come to your door to harass you, it's another thing entirely and so much easier for them to just pull you over for a "broken headlight" every time they see you, know what I mean?


Or when you're parked on a dark street hacking a signal to get your ATS fix!


Hang in there man, and best of luck to you.


Thanks.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 01:11 PM by goosdawg
reply to post by jackinthebox



I got rousted one night reading the paper by the outdoor lights of the 24hr fitness center.

I used to park in their lot overnight to sleep and it was a hop, skip, and a jump to get up, go in and shower, feed and walk my pups (imagine living in a '96 Ford Ranger with two dogs!) and then get to class on time in the morning.

The officer was cool though.

When I explained that I was living in my pickup so I could afford to go to school, he just recorded my information and basically said he'd look the other way, since it wasn't "legal" to camp on the streets in San Jose.

It kind of felt like he was looking out for me, you know?

I kept a low profile, and spent eight months on the streets until I found an artist's loft in a converted cannery, only paid $450 for it, and this was at the peak of the dot com boom!

There are good cops out there, and if you follow the golden rule, you're more likely to see their "good side," than their bad.

BTW, good luck with the new job, can't keep a good man down forever.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 02:59 PM by jackinthebox
reply to post by BlueRaja



Did they make this clear to you before or after you made wise cracks to them?


Before. My comment was not so much a "wise-crack" anyway, as it was a rebuke of their threats.
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