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British Launch `Great Eurasian War' Drive

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posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 11:50 AM

British Launch `Great Eurasian War' Drive

There is a dangerous, widespread belief today, even among leading policy-making circles in the Americas and Europe, that the British Empire is a thing of the past. This dangerous delusion reflects a sorry lack of understanding of the Venetian method of financier oligarchical rule, and could, if not rectified, bring on a New Dark Age of horrible suffering.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 11:50 AM
Good review to history of Tibet and British influence, and deep look for possible reason for todays high tensions in region. How much they run the show from behind is interesting to know, because they do have the history for that.

My toughts...

Article should mention also the main reason for being hostile to Russia, and what, and why they are so afraid that deeper cooperation with in "Shanghai Group"

Assassination of Tsar and his family was Kings greatest fault ever done. It was made by Illuminati, planned by bankers, and ordered by Royals of England. This finally done revenge to their own blood relatives in Novgorod, by putting Communist puppets, Stalin and Lenin to power, and killing the whole family, was something that has break up ties between those two country, like "forever"...

After assassination of Romanovs, they had only one goal with them, suck their treasures, keep USSR weak, and keep their puppets in full control. Ties with China, or another, like Islamic world, is something what build sovereign possibility to USSR, but that was not in UK:s interests, has never been after Tsar.

Russia is now reborn, but royals are no more. There is no way that Russians rely to UK and its Kings because their bloody act against Tsar is known, they are ready to kill even their own family. Russia is now a growing problem, with deep China relations. Even when Putin says direct answer, that "yes, we follow your way," do they really?

Scandals and growing tensions in diplomacy has ruin relations between these two powerful country today. Its on the news. Putin is an old spy himself, and he knows the secrets, home MI-6 works. He know that is all about conspiracy, NWO, but is Russia with them, or against them, British can not really know anymore.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 12:15 PM
See and read up on apart of history called "The Great Game".

The British Empire stopped the spread of Russian influence in the Far East to protect her interest's and control in the British Raj. That's why we invaded and installed a puppet government in Afghanistan in the 1800s

Our relations with Russia were very strong after the fall of the USSR, it only changed when we started to criticise Putin and the Kremlin for killing a spy in London. Paranoid government in Russia, due to a declining population, is trying to show it still has power...when it does not. See the ATS thread about the Russian general who thinks America, EU and China are going to divide up Russia. That's how paranoid the Russian nation is.

Sadly, the article is very...erm...paranoid. There is nothing fascist about the European Union, it is more socialist than anything. I read another article on the site about the economy and other topics, everything seems to be OTT.

I'd be sceptical of the source if I was you

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 12:21 PM
Sorry, but that didn't make much sense to me - far from europe rushing towards fascism, they are embracing socialism and pushing it for all it's worth.

It's a good read, but one that I'd check further on before believing totally.

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 01:04 PM
reply to post by infinite

Can not agree with you. Have you read the new constitution of EU? Not.

Because nobody can. Its so difficult, that even the MEP:s can not read it, they just vote for it, by name of Lisbon Treaty.

Sosialism turns always to dictatorship and fascism, and dont ask me why. So was it in Germany, Italy, in Russia and in China, they were all "socialist" country before they became "fascist." And I see that happening in EU too, and when Blair gets the "new office" next year, or another puppet of Illuminati and Royals, we can compare EU to US, no doubt about that.

My country joined EU in 1994, and after that we has lose the tiny democracy we still had, after fighting against USSR hardly in WWII. Nothing good has come from EU, that I can say. And our politicians sell us so cheap, and my hate against those mans are still very deep. But they get many rewards.

Kingdoms has fight for power and treasures, to deepen their rule from public for many century, but wars was very different than now those days. First "total war" come in II WW. Why is that, why so late? Because it wasnt made by rules of kings, not the pope, it was made by rules of bankers. They had funded both sides from WWI, and after the assassination of Tsar, they get all the permissions do what they will.

That was the moment when power slips from Pope and Kings to Bankers.

Royal Dynasty in Europe, under the rule of Pope, was made to last. Before the Pope gives rules of engagement, he give the permissions to go war, and also inform when "enough was enough". Religion of Christ has secured the bloodlines, all of them, from time of first kings rise to power after Byzantine crusades begin.

English King make alliance with bankers, and his revenge against Tsar, promised by his grand father, was the greatest mistake never done in "western world", so I see history.

Couple of quotes, answers

Our relations with Russia were very strong after the fall of the USSR, it only changed when we started to criticise Putin and the Kremlin for killing a spy in London.

Have you think, what can be the reason for killing a spy? A Double agent? If there was only one will, like you assume there was, why you need double agents between UK and Russia? And why you have to eliminate them with all cost? Maybe there is lot in hide, and has been, what they want to figure out.

Paranoid government in Russia

I do believe, in the light of the history, and destruction of Russia, what was made mainly by UK, that they still have many good reason to be paranoid: Tsar was waiting with his whole family for English, to be transported to England, where they had fortunes too, but they never came. But Stalin did, with guns, and with his secret orders. Thats a shame that nobody can forget, thats a fact, how much you can trust to King of England.

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 01:14 PM
reply to post by infinite

Ah, Infinite! I was going to mention the great game in a post, but because of the confusing nature of the OP, I didn't really wish to get dragged into a non-sensical confuso match..

Nice to see you're aware of it too, not many people are these day's. They think we just invaded all these countries out of spite, when in reality, we didn't want to conquer the world, but did it to stop the Russians doing it. Imagine if the Russian Empire had spread south to the Indian Ocean and east over China. They would be unstoppable!


posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 02:02 PM
reply to post by JanusFIN

I read the EU constitution and the Reform Treaty
Both in English and German. Would you like a copy of them? It is no trouble really, I have them stored on file.

Plus, I did understand pretty much most of it. I can explain the basics to you if you like? I'm not being sarcastic btw.

The treaty does introduce direct democracy, a million citizens of Europe can force the European Parliament to debate and act on a issue. Last time I checked, direct democracy was not a fascist "thing".

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 03:43 PM
Tibet, the 'great game' and the CIA

Given the historical context of the unrest in Tibet, there is reason to believe Beijing was caught on the hop with the recent demonstrations for the simple reason that their planning took place outside of Tibet and that the direction of the protesters is similarly in the hands of anti-Chinese organizers safely out of reach in Nepal and northern India.

In my way of thinking this world today, England is not doing its policy usually directly, but using US Army and CIA as their weapons for their means. This article is about that, or we can put it to that contex.

I just believe that US is not sovereign country, maybe ever has been. The madness in recent years has been out of all imagination, difficult to see that it serves their country, and their interests at all. After Bush Jr they havent care their interests, and now collapse of imperium is near. They are driving all the time these issues, witch just hurts them more and more... And they have been very suicidal in foreign policy.

Why US do this? I believe that behind the curtain there is UK and Vatican, who drives their sword forward. They dont care about US, its a sword for higher reasons, make in history to act like it does today. There is lots of evidence from that, but its not just the facts, its also my believe.

I dont believe that US is the real super power, like everybody thinks. I believe that its by Vatican, its still The United Kingdoms, and United States is still only a part of it. European Unions joins to this real super power by Lisbon Treaty.

BTW - Congratulations if you believe to that "God damn piece of paper", What I have tryed to understand. I dont like to join this OWG - One World Government. Not without elections, what they didnt offer to us... But you are British, I assume. Its good paper for your country, cause you wrote it! And maybe you understand it too... But I will fight against it.

I am hungry to get out of this EU, I really dont believe that this time large empire brings anything good to its small nations, and distant areas...

I just hate the idea.

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 04:04 PM
I know what you are talking about regarding the Vatican, UK and America. I've read and studied the theory, even seen some interesting evidence. Sadly, most of it can be debunked apart from the issue of America being a "corporation of the British" (There is an ATS thread on it. VERY INTERESTING!).

(btw, the "great game" happened in 1800s. No CIA then)

I shall not go into great detail because countless threads exist on this matter. The Vatican is not as powerful any more, it still holds influence in the world but not as much due to the secular environment we live in. Britain, or the City of London to be exact, is not the heart of the NWO or anything to do with the illuminati (which, from my own research, does not exist). I'm a great admire of David Icke's work, even though I am sceptical towards majority of it, but I'm currently going off topic here!

Back to topic!

I'm a British citizen, yes, but I see myself as a citizen of the European Union above all else. I'm not afraid to say I believe in a federal Europe.

A significant minority were against this new Treaty in Britain, so it is hard to see how we would benefit from something many disagreed with

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 05:49 PM
reply to post by infinite

Like I have many times said, "everything in our life, is finally our believe."

I think, and when looking your long stay here, we have probably read many same researches and studys. Maybe I have find something that I can see as truth, and you have find something, that debunks that all over again... Do we believe the facts that has been shown, its always finally up to us, and what we "want" to believe. There is our attitude following, always.

I also see you as optimistic. I have many friends like you, and I like them all very much, because I rather believe to "doomsday", and its pushing my mind to darkness, but they keep their mind in happiness, no matter what they find in their way... And there are many skeptical optimistics too, who read and study like I do, even the "opposite truth" from subjects, but their conclusion is always different than mine. Why is that?

I see two general ways in thinking, and its up to our believes. Answer comes from question: Is life a great coincidence, or is it happened because ruling destiny? I have followed the way of destiny. That life is planned, carefully scripted, and way long time ago before we see the light. Many optimistic are skeptics because they see so many coincidence in this way to today... I dont. "Nothing happen in coincidence."

When we talk about conspiracy in states and religions, we come to the separation in our minds, and way we think. If you believe that history is too great to be as planned, and there are too many coincidences how we have get so far, you wont believe that conspiracy is really true... Maybe part of it, but not in "big picture" like NWO and Illuminati.

I see life as straight line. History is made by us, everything happen because there is always somebodys will, and for somebodys cause. What is the will, and what is the cause, in history that can seen as act of conspiracy from those who had the right to write it, from the winners side. There are always those who loose, and those who win. Both important from their cause, but only other will have the power to make the justice for its cause.

( I maybe write this too difficult way, but English is not my home language... I hope you fid the point. )

I have live a long life already. My another daughter is a noble one, her mother is from old and rich family. I live that life in great estates almost 10 yrs. It was a good place to study the world and its history. I have done tens of theaters, and write scripts for acts. I have been rich, and I have been poor, my family is full of artistics, and I have spend lot of time with animals... I have been a soldier for many years too.

And what is now my conclusion?

Yes, that there is Illuminati and the chosen ones. Yes, that there is a plan named NWO, and Idea to push the public back to dark ages. 911 and Iraq has been a terrible act from them who push this old agenda forward.

And finally yes: Christianity is the main evil behind this conspiracy, and its temple of thousand secrets, and ancient bloodlines. Bankers and Royals rules this world, and they do as they wish. Public, the people, we are just sheeps for them... And we have no value in noble minds!

posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 06:29 PM
reply to post by JanusFIN

Drive? Hong Kong is no longer British. India , Pakistan and other strategically important colonies are no longer British. It is much weaker then before WW2. And now it goes against an industrial giant like China or resources giant like Russia?
Now, Kings/Popes/bankers thing:
As far as i can see throughout the history, Christianity is used by political leaders and not vice versa. All those Roman popes banished by France/Holy Roman Empire, Henry establishing a new Christianity to divorce (well also to ease pressure from Vatican, but it still shows that Vatican was not all-mighty) , templars and similar examples of political forces bending the church when needed.
So if a global conspiracy is real it will use a religion,not vice versa. And as i see it it will need a new/upgraded one. More suitable to technological/scientific world.
I am still not convinced entirely in NWO as the main stream describes it here, but attacks on "old" religions are getting more and more often. Clearing a field for a new one,maybe? Or a new merges?
As for bankers - when bankers are mentioned i hear the same 5 families,who have certain thing in common. If these people control all the banks in US (not to mention Earth) - they already control the world in certain ways. However i have serious doubts in the fact that their power is really that big. I leave the familiar option that it is the common thing to all of them that is the main reason to all the conspiracy theories.
drive instead of thrust(????where it came from????)

[edit on 27-3-2008 by ZeroKnowledge]

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