Earth Hour - March 29th 2008, 20:00hrs Local Time, page 4
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reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 04:22 PM by Vanitas
reply to post by cosmicstorm



I know how you feel...
Still, you did your bit. So it's not like you didn't make a difference.



reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 05:53 PM by Mikey84
reply to post by Animal


Did you even read the posts or just skim through and assume? By doing what you did (turning out the lights and then back on) you actually USED and WASTED MORE energy!

What’s even more hypocritical is I bet half of you people drive cars and come Christmas time you will all cover your houses and trees in lots and lots of lights.

Mikey


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 08:58 PM by fiftyfifty
OK, it's 2.50a, here in the UK and I am a little drunk i will admit. I went into town just after Earth hour and Guess what, I managed to do an hour without electricity because I got ready before 8!

In response to Mikey, YOU are the moronic person here who will do anything possible to sabotage a gesture of positivity to the future of civilization. DO NOT criticize anyone here for taking part because your ignorant attitude is merely your opinion and your justification is totally absurd. Siwtching on a few light bulbs is NOT going to use more energy than if they were left on for an hour. As an electronic engineer by trade I can be confident about that. Some people HAVE to drive a car for a living but do you HAVE to have all the lights on in your house when they are not really needed? Pollution from vehicles is a separate issue, household energy consumption is something that can be reduced by every single person without any excuse.

Also with regards to the statements about christmas lights.. well as an electrical engineer, my specific role is guess what, related to christmas lights. We are trying to push LED as much as possible and councils all over the UK are aware of energy efficiency and taking this on board, ALL christmas lights in the next few years will be LED using up to 70% less electricity.

MIKEY, if you are so against it, then that that is your perogative (sp) but please do your research first. You are the kind of person that this planet could do without and the kind of person I have the least respect for. Find something better to do.

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reply posted on 30-3-2008 @ 05:00 AM by cosmicstorm
reply to post by Mikey84


Yes i did read through the other posts, but what exactly do you suggest one to do to help?.... im trying to set an example to my son who is only 7, so im not going to rant and rave about how useless this event was........ there is little the average person can do, as we are never in control...... i think it was a small step, but i think it made more people aware, which cant be a bad thing....

no i dont put up xmas lights, i dont send xmas cards, and im raising a child to be very aware of the consequences of our actions towards the planet, so if that makes me a moron, then im fine with that!



reply posted on 30-3-2008 @ 09:12 AM by Animal
reply to post by Mikey84


Q:
Does it use more electricity to turn lights on and off or to leave them on if it is only for a short period of time?

Answer:

Fluorescents yes, incandescent no. lin k


Like most people at home, I use incandescent, so so much for your over generalized drivel.

Also note it only uses more energy if the period of time is "short", which I am willing to bet is under an hour.

I point this all out to you not just to show you don't know what your talking about, I do it also to highlight the inanity of your argument against this action. Get a life.


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reply posted on 30-3-2008 @ 05:13 PM by movado1999
I believe there to be nothing wrong with the desire to conserve energy, or anything else for that matter, when it is practical and feasible to do so. If energy conservation were the true goal here however, then there are many more effective ways already proven to be a viable energy conservation method.

The problem, however, is that these methods have been either supressed or penalized by our Department of Energy and other corporations that, due to deregulation of the US electric industry in 2000 (en.wikipedia.org...), have found ways to turn a profit by using technology that they have patented. Look up the lithium ion series and parallel hybrid, hydrogen fuel injection, etc. Ultimately, we will be forced to pay through the nose for these technologies. Other technologies, such as non-polluting biomass and SEG which can produce inexpensive energy without suffering an impact in performance or efficiency, have been silenced and their creators rebuffed. There is a problem with individuals blindly taking action in events such as Earth Hour "because everyone else is, " and without conducting their own independent analysis as to WHY. Taking a misguided action has much more severe consequences than taking a well-thought out one.

"Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between our politics and our equations. But to me our equations are far more important, for politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation stands forever." --Albert Einstein

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