Aliens paved my driveway

Aliens paved my driveway

Thank you (sigh) it's like a breath of fresh air.

I believe you... no, really and if it was up to me,
I'd make you a moderator.

Originally posted by Mark Roazhar
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

I've read the other post which you refer to, which is about fakes, or at least starts off on this. This thread is to point away from fakes, and more at the actual belief in aliens. A fake is an obvious attempt to mislead people.
I'm looking at the way people want to believe with or without evidence

Instead of blaming aliens, perhaps you should consider something more probable. Perhaps somebody with some spare asphalt, some free time, and a rolling pin decided to do you a favour while you were at work.

Originally posted by Kinesis
Instead of blaming aliens, perhaps you should consider something more probable. Perhaps somebody with some spare asphalt, some free time, and a rolling pin decided to do you a favour while you were at work.

And that, in a nutshell, is what many of the posters referred to as "skeptics" have been trying to say. Why jump to a fantastic conclusion, when the actual answer may be something much more "normal" and mundane.

There seems to be a few posts saying I'm blaming aliens. I'm not
The list I gave that aliens are getting blamed for was just the tip of the iceberg of what people claim aliens helped us with or built themselves.

I don't agree. Humans did it ALL!

Hence the question at the end of my post about who paved my drive: Aliens or Humans

Humans are responsible for everything on this planet.
We came down from the trees alone. We built wheels, pyramids, and amazing temples. We created beliefs to help us understand things we couldn’t fathom. We’re responsible for some of the most breathtakingly beautiful and some of the most sickening things that we can even begin to imagine. We did it. We did it all.

As for humans being abducted, I don't call it interference as the aliens in question have tried to cover up the abduction with as little damage/disturbance as possible (excluding post traumatic stress, hidden implants etc). And at the end of the day, this could all, theoretically, be just in their heads

Modern technology being alien driven, which part? I've seen nothing which I haven't watched being developed over the last 30 years. Our technology came in leaps and bounds because of World War II, necessity being the mother of invention. Name the part that you describe as Alien derived and I'll do my best to show you how that technology evolved

UM, HU?

i get it, but i don't know if thats really a good way to get a point across, i mean, aliens paving the driveway....do you really think thats a good way to get attention to your point?

which isn't a bad point mind you, but it got me thinkin it was another fakie off the bat

on another note, why do you think we got there attention , i think the odds for an advanced watching us before we knew they were there (like since pre-history) are a lot better than the usual "oh they noticed us using nukes and h-bombs" theory.

there is plenty to chew on for the idea that they have been here for a long , long time

ancient art is a good start

and why do people still not consider the idea that they are the gods ( at least thats how they have been viewed in centerys past

yes my spelling is horrific

reply to post by Mark Roazhar


VERY NICE...GOOD POST
You get a star. You have very nicely summed up everything I have ever thought about the people who try to push off everything they either don't understand or can't explain on aliens.

I dont know, but if they come back can you ask them to seal my back deck. Hell they can probe me if they will paint the outside and trim my pecan tree

Hi!

Firstly great post.

I agree, I loved facts, I love proof.
I do also love theorizing and speculating to find an outcome.

I don NOT like jumping from, look a paved driveway - must be aliens...so I starred and flagged this thread.

Its painfully obvious that certain character types LIVE for alien involvement. They will see a bad pixel on a scanned photo of some scenic forest and say, "OMG UFO!!!!!! must see undeniable proof" or worse...trace a rock with MS paint to show how amazingly similar the dead fossilized lifeforms looks like a weird alligator cross dog alien pet on Mars...believing it to be true because they found the JPG on NASA's website.

Thanks for proving to me that some people, although still loving what this forum is about, have retained their ability to analyze and critique facts.

Unbelievable, this post has 1,500 views so far. I am not sure of the point, is it a satyr on UFO believers, I take it? I am still not sure after reading it, and the responding posts, is why I ask. I am not even being sarcastic here but, I do have to ask, what's the point? Seriously? I am not understanding.

Originally posted by LateApexer313
Unbelievable, this post has 1,500 views so far. I am not sure of the point, is it a satyr on UFO believers, I take it? I am still not sure after reading it, and the responding posts, is why I ask. I am not even being sarcastic here but, I do have to ask, what's the point? Seriously? I am not understanding.

This post having 1500 views validates the OP's point.

reply to post by LateApexer313


The point Im making is that there are a lot of people who refuse to believe what humans are capable of. Because they dont understand how or why something was done, they point the finger at aliens, without a shred of evidence

I used the driveway as a slightly humerous way of pointing at the pyramids.
The point about the driveway I was making was that the people who built my driveway are skilled humans, who's life and livlihood are based on doing a great job. They have specialist tools to help with construction. Maybe they have trade secrets about how to finish the blocks. Strange markings and indentations can have a mundane explanation.

Several thousand years ago, Egyptians made pyramids and because we dont know how they did it, is it right to assume it was aliens?

I look at the pyramids and see decades of hard work, involving thousands of skilled men, who some people are refusing to give credit

I see crop circles as part artwork/part crop vandalisation, done by humans

Why is it, if some people dont have the explanation, they point at aliens at shout its evidence?

Originally posted by Badge01
I started looking at it from a 'Systems Management' point of view.

They really need to hire you at NASA.

Originally posted by Badge01
That includes use of nanotechnology (very small scout ships, but unmanned), and virtual technology (visiting in 'active' hologram form).

Both of these are extremely viable possibilities. Here's why I think so:
1) Nanotechnology - As humans are beginning to discover (regarding space applications) smaller can be better. There are plans in the works to deploy a satellite array (I prefer 'swarm', but that's not what NASA calls it) that will orbit in formation. Each small unit makes up a part of the larger whole. Using interfereometry, these small units will combine to form an enormous telescope. Now, while this isn't exactly Nano-tech, it's certainly taking into consideration the fact that several small devices costs much less to launch, and much less to maintain. If we're talking about civilizations with perhaps a 1000 year edge on us or greater, I find it highly likely that this concept would eventually reach the Nano level. A swarm of microscopic nano explorer robots could even concievably hitch a ride on a comet or asteroid. And something that small could make great use of the force of 'solar winds'.

2) The Hologram theory -
First, let me be clear, I'm not saying that I think crop circles are the result of EBE activity. I'm not saying that some aren't either, I simply don't know because I haven't researched them enough. Having said this, it occurs to me that using microwaves (or something similar) to actively 'beam' a message/communication to the surface of another world makes a whole heck of a lot of sense in this context. For reference on the possibilities of Microwaves, I'll reference the HAARP facility in Alaska. There is a lot of speculation about the facility, but one thing is for certain, they are using microwaves there, and they have the capability of crossing microwave beams (focused) to 'heat up' layers of the Ionosphere. Further, they are exploiting the physics of their local environment to generate electricity. At any rate, my point is that if Humans can do that, imagine what an advanced species might be capable of doing.

It certainly makes sense from a systems management point of view, to save on cost (I'm really talking about energy requirements as opposed to money, but as they are equivalent in our society I guess there isn't a distinction required).

Originally posted by Badge01
4. On arrival in interstellar ships, atmospheric-capable craft must be deployed to allow night flight and visitation;

I completely agree on this point, but am contradicted by personal experience. I know that this is just a personal testimony I'm about to make, and that I can't 'prove it' to you or anyone else, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Last fall in Los Angeles I saw what I can only describe as a 'mothership' in the sky over downtown headed West. It looked like a flying Oil Platform.
Now I know nobody is going to just 'believe' me, and I don't expect anyone to really, but since we're talking about this stuff in depth here, I thought it worth mentioning since it's absolutely the truth as I witnessed it, and it seems relevant to this discussion.

I guess my point is that while atmospheric craft makes sense to me (and if I were planning such a mission, I'd recommend it) it might not be a requirement for a sufficiently advanced species. They might have ships that can travel equally well in both space and atmo.

I think that a lot of it (they manner in which a species chooses to visit a new world like Earth) will depend upon the amount of energy available and disposable to that species...

Other than wanting to speculate with you a bit further on these points, your post makes perfect sense to me. I've also spent many years thinking about these issues, and it has been a sincere pleasure speculating on the possibilities in such a rational way with you and others here at ATS.

What a great way to start the morning!

-WFA

I don't believe in the ETH, but do believe that there could be EME's (Extraterrestrial Materialized Entities)

At any rate, we have absolutely ZERO evidence that what we call Greys, for example, are physical and biological entities -- EBE's.

But for all we know, some creatures that resemble Greys may be just one of many manifestations of a spectrum of unseen electromagnetic "intelligences", many of which we strongly suspect can morph and shape-shift into any form and shape that they want YOU to see them as... and this includes manifesting into the shape of an object like a UFO, for example. They are master mimickers but they are creative too in that "they" appreciate variety and individual expression hence why we are seeing photo's and descriptions of UFOs in all different shapes sizes throughout the modern era.

But probably most of those triangle UFO's out there, are man-made.


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Nice thread Mark R. I think us humans are capable of all that has been invented. It would make me so proud to know that humans made their own way without any help from so called aliens. We've got the brain to travel the universe and beyond and I feel it's just a matter of time before we travel that way. So many good scientists and engineers out there that have changed our world already. ( Telsa, Brown, Einstein, Bohr, Faraday, Maxwell, Hubble and on and on.) I pick human for our advances in technology and science.

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