Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed, page 1
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Topic started on 27-3-2008 @ 07:31 AM by VIKINGANT
I have for a long time thought that many computer viruses were created by anti-virus manufacturers, but this article sheds a whole new light.

From iPods to navigation systems, some of today's hottest gadgets are landing on store shelves with some unwanted extras from the factory — pre-installed viruses that steal passwords, open doors for hackers and make computers spew spam.


The problem with the gadgets these days is, you can't live with 'em cant' live without 'em


reply posted on 27-3-2008 @ 08:55 AM by styxxz
Wow, that's a bit of a worry..

From the same
article


Monitoring suppliers in China and elsewhere is expensive, and cuts into the savings of outsourcing.


In that case, it would be appropriate to have warning labels on these products. Kinda like the health warnings you get on cigarette packets..


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 07:24 AM by sty
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the security holes are intentional (created by the software producers) , they are used to penetrate computers. This is why you cannot see the code of the Windows operating system , however with Linux you can see the code, change it as you wish and design your own operating system..
www.linux.org could give a better view on Linux.
About anti-viruses - yes, lots of viruses are created by the anti-virus comanies. There are "armies" of virus-makers , that claim to create viruses in orded to build up the anti-virus databases of the program.

A very good antivirus for Windows is
www.avast.com
free for non-business use , very good daily updates.

[edit on 28-3-2008 by sty]



reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 08:07 PM by rat256
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just because you aren't paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you

i know that a lot of internet connectible products have holes the size of holland in them, but for the most part these are either oversights or a misguided attempt by a developer to make his life easier to tack on another bit of code to do something new, when the next service pack comes around.

my brother inlaw fixes holes in linux software for fun and he says that almost all of them were there for a reason that was either historical (something used to do something, doesn't any more and was never taken out or patched up), for future use ( ready to tack on a new port or protocol leaving a security vulnerability) or just someone being dim (say leaving a simple mail server open, unsecured and ready to send spam, outside the firewall on a version of a well known linux OS - i fell for that one unfortunately!)


reply posted on 30-3-2008 @ 03:06 PM by Sky watcher
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