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reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 01:19 AM by redmage
Originally posted by kerontehe
It doesn't take much more than a high speed centrifuge to enrich it into a potent nuclear device.


I'm fully aware of that uranium can be enriched with a high speed centrifuge; however, you seem to be a bit confused when you use the term "potent nuclear device".

A "dirty bomb", regardless of the enrichment-status of the uranium (or any other radioactive substance that may be used), is not designed to initiate a
nuclear chain reaction; it merely disperses radioactive material (and quite poorly at that) which can be cleaned up relatively easily. In short, it's actually a waste of uranium.

The largest dangers, from a "dirty bomb", are the initial blast (which isn't increased by the addition of any radioactive substance), and the widespread panic associated with the irrational fears attached to the phrase "dirty bomb". The ensuing panic is far more likely to result in deaths than any minor exposure, to the radioactive materials dispersed, would.

The problem is that the MSM has fed into, and created these irrational public fears; and that they've avoided easing the public's minds with the facts regarding just how worthless "dirty bombs" really are.

[edit on 3/29/08 by redmage]


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 02:13 AM by kerontehe
reply to post by redmage


I was not refering to a "dirty bomb".

As I stated in my second post and I maintain that they are at the correct source. Depleted uranium has several other uses that can be quite effective if they visit your abode.

While I readily admit to confusion - I do have 5 years plus experience working for these guys:
query.nytimes.com...
www.awst.com...
at a little place in Tennessee called Oak Ridge.



[edit on 3/29/2008 by kerontehe]


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 02:33 AM by kerontehe
reply to post by redmage



Agreed.

Both our borders and the porous state thereof is something I have preaching to stone ears for about 9 years now.

It is probably a good thing I am retired now less I be tempted to go rogue.


reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 04:35 AM by Hellmutt
Interesting timeline...


  • Raul Reyes (FARC) was traveling on a fake Venezuelan passport to Romania in mid january 2008, and meeting with Mogilevich's people, allegedly to buy uranium.


  • Mogilevich was arrested in Moscow on January 24 2008 (for "tax evation")


  • March 1 2008: Raul Reyes was killed in Equador by Colombian soldiers. Venezuela almost went to war with Colombia because of this raid.


  • The first reports about Reyes' meeting in Romania was published on March 6 2008.


  • March 6 2008: Viktor Bout was arrested in Thailand, in a sting operation by DEA agents posing as FARC members.


  • And now Colombia finds this uranium.


    Btw, Thailand has not yet received an official extradition request from Washington on Viktor Bout...



  • reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 06:44 AM by kerontehe
    reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

    From here:
    Colombia Probes FARC Ties to Uranium Seized in Bogota (Update3)

    By Joshua Goodman

    March 27 (Bloomberg) -- Colombian authorities are investigating what the country's biggest guerrilla group planned to do with 30 kilograms (66 pounds) of depleted uranium seized in a raid on the outskirts of Bogota.

    www.bloomberg.com...

    Additionally:
    The depleted uranium, found yesterday in a rural area outside the city, poses no health risk and can't be used to build a dirty bomb, said Charles Ferguson, a nuclear affairs analyst at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington. A video released by the Colombian military showed the metal had a slow radiation rate of 1.5 Microsieversts per hour, he said.

    ``You could stand next to this material for days and nothing would happen to you, unless you dropped it on your foot,'' said Ferguson.

    Possible uses for the FARC might include making armor- piercing conventional weapons or an ingestible poison, Ferguson said. Less likely, the metal could be used as a shield while handling more potent radioactive materials that would be used to make a dirty bomb.


    As I said again - they are at the source.



    [edit on 3/29/2008 by kerontehe]


    reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 05:13 AM by Hellmutt
    What else was found on Reyes' computer?

    A lot of interesting stuff on his computer...


    Gateway Pundit: COLOMBIA SEIZES FARC TERRORIST URANIUM STASH!

    Here is a partial list of what Colombian investigators found on the FARC terror leader's computer:

    -- FARC connections with Ecuadorean president Rafael Correa
    -- Records of $300 million offerings from Hugo Chavez
    -- Thank you notes from Hugo Chavez dating back to 1992
    -- Uranium purchasing records
    -- Admit to killing the sister of former President Cesar Gaviria
    -- Admit to planting a 2003 car bomb killing 36 at a Bogota upper crust club
    -- Directions on how to make a Dirty Bomb
    -- Information that led to the discovery of 60 pounds of uranium
    -- Letter to Libya's Moammar Gadhafi asking for cash to buy surface-to-air missiles
    -- Meetings with "gringos" about Barack Obama
    -- Information on Russian illegal arms dealer Viktor Bout who was later captured
    -- FARC funding Correa's campaign
    -- Cuban links to FARC
    -- Links to US Democrats
    -- $480,000 of FARC cash in Costa Rican safe house
    ...And, more.




    I wonder what's up with Viktor Bout? There seems to be no push from Washington to get him...


    reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 09:48 PM by Maxmars
    Originally posted by redmage
    What Beautiful timing. I feel so much safer, with uranium floating around South America, knowing that our southern border will stay secure in the coming months...

    Edit (instead of a double post):

    I can almost see it now...

    Leave a six onth gap, for plausible deniability, and smuggle it in on a C.I.A. cocaine charter so that warring government factions can stage a false flag operation in order to seize the election.

    Where's Tom Clancy when ya need him!

    [edit on 3/27/08 by redmage]




    OOoooh, I'm telling on you.... Mr. Clancy just got beaten to a plot line nyah nyah ... !


    reply posted on 15-4-2008 @ 07:35 PM by toasted
    reply to post by MikeboydUS



    " Colombia seizes uranium from leftist guerrillas "

    My gut reaction was [ Cue DRAGNET music ], because, the last I heard, "we" are setting up a base nearby, and prior to that was, that south america was on list of places to go, as in afghanistan etc.

    It just seems like another item for another situation to build on or unfold over.

    Only time will tell.
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