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I am one of the few people who has no opinion on the 911 subject, so I read both sides of different posts looking for some enlightment. I just want to say for such a touchy subject that this thread has been a check and countercheck in a very educational, productive, respectful way. Many of the posters have first hand and extensive knowledge of the subject and are presenting it well, often leaving their emotions at the door. I often avoid discussion that resort to name calling and cutting other posters down. Thanks for keeping it on subject and the point by point answers/questions. I could very well see this as being a great starting point for people with little to no knowledge of the subject.
it doesnt matter what anyone puts on this thread regarding evidence. The OP obviously doesnt care enough to even look at any of it. I agree....lets stop wasting our time on this guy.
Actually, he was in Pakistan. Getting medical treatment. While the HEAD of the PAKISTANI ISI(CIA) was here, meeting with the heads of the Senate and House Intel committees...talking about Osama. Hmmm, now THAT is interesting.
Folks, that says it all right there. Why even bother responding? Clearly, the OP has not, and refuses to actually look into the gritty details of the official story and see the holes. After all, that would be "dangerous." He even admitted that he hasn't even considered the issues behind the building 7 collapse. Adolph Hitler used a false-flag attack to provoke his people into war. For years, Germany fell for the lie. Only after the war, when the real evidence was shoved into their faces, did they learn the truth. Now, decades later, there are still people who believe that attack was real and the holocaust was fake. These people are so convinced that their governments can do no wrong that there's no point in debating it with them. Their furiously waved flags are the blinders which shield their eyes from the painful truth. Let them live in their denial, and let's take the time saved by not wasting it on them and do something productive with it.
Can you tell how they did found a passport for hijackers between the huge amounts of the towers rubble? where no one was able to find even a complete chair or table
I've seen this called conspiracy by anamoly. Find a few anamolies, then build around it until the only possible explanation is a conspiracy. My friend described this in a funny way. "They find a few inconsistencies, wave their arms around, do a little dance, and shout conspiracy."
Let's explore a theory that isn't popular here, but is out in the mainstream.
Unfounded accuasations against government officials is dangerous without hardcore proof.
It is not the politicians fault, radical Muslim extremists hijacked 4 planes that day.
It is not their fault there remains a certain sect inside of the Muslim religion/Middle east that hates America, in large part because of Freedom and prosperity.
They do not need to divulge every little thing they discuss, as it's a national security risk.
The Alex Jones, George Noory, Loose Change type of people throwing around PUBLIC accuasations without solid proof is very unnerving to say the least.
Excellent post seasalt. I appreciate that straight talk. I have suspicions that started with the fall of building number 7. I don't know how they knew that would fall as it did. I don't know why the other buildings closer to WTC twin towers didn't fall. The biggest single thing that raised the hair on the back of my neck was when Bush said that thing about "outrageous conspiracy theories. WHY would he say that so soon after the attacks. It was just out of the blue. I am not afraid to face the truth and if my suspicions are wrong I will accept that and move on.
dear seasalt, answer me this. How does a plane made of a thin skin of aluminum cut thru hardened steel like a hot knife thru butter?
But here's some questions for you: Wich News Channel do you watch the most?? (Presuming you're an American. I'm not, by the way. Sorry for the bad english.) Do you watch news from outside your own country??
First off: How does a plane incinerate a building, providing a wonderful fireball for cameras-yet from inside the plane a passport falls out, in readable condition? And then that passport is found amongst all the debris (which was scattered quite literally for miles) and turned over immediately to the "authorities?"
Why was the military on exercise with the very same premise as the attacks that occurred?
Who bankrolled the alleged terrorists?
Who knew enough to sell their shares of all three major airline stocks? How did they know?
What really happened to make Building #7 collapse?
I think that anyone that questions the official decision is more a patriot than a terrorist. There are no "National Security Issues" unless the National Security agencies are hiding something.
Originally posted by Mikey84
reply to post by seasalt
Ok, First off – You’re not the only one.
I believe the official story as I am yet to be shown one single piece of evidence that it was anything else (such as an inside job). I mean real proof, and looking at all the evidence.
I’m not going to get into it on this thread as I have seen all the other theories and it’s the same repetitive stuff that usually has simple and explainable answers but people choose to ignore.
Finally, your thread has let ME see that I’m not alone.
[edit on 27/3/2008 by Mikey84]
Originally posted by seasalt
I believe it's about putting events in their proper context and using common sense.
I am not sure about the scientific realities behind such a thing.
I don't know how, but it did.
Lots of papers were blowing around due to the explosion of both planes that day. There were a lot of papers in the air and on the ground.
Coincidences are real, and do happen.
A lot of shady terrorist groups from the middle east. Osama comes to mind first and foremost.
Probably terrorist groups and or people connected to said groups.
I haven't looked into building 7 as much as I would like.
Questioning events is normal, but there should also be a limmit.
Unfounded accuasations at the hands of thousands of innocent lives taken is unnerving like I explained earlier.