ESOTERIC Agenda The Most Shocking Video of TRUTH You will ever see!, page 7
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reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 08:48 AM by enchantress62
Originally posted by Solarskye
OK, I see alot of fear in here. After watching this I was stunned too! Then I started thinking about the positive things in this world. Like all the good people in this country. There's people becoming heroes everyday. Saving life's and doing things that go way beyond the call of duty. The kindness in strangers who care. Doctors who operate and save life's. Soldiers who stand for strength and courage even if we think this war is bad, these soldiers have more courage and guts than I'll ever have and to do what they do at such a young age. I think about house's for humanity and the people who volunteer their time to help build them. All other voluntary works from others. I think about all the good in this world and know that we are gonna make it and if this video has any truth to it then they are out numbered by us good people who care and will never let it happen.


Very good point! lol and after typing my last post here, I was discussing this video with my teenage daughter and interestingly she said, "Mom, this is a theory, not fact." Even though I think the theory is based on facts I know to be true, still we have to concider the Chaos theory as well.

www.imho.com...

Our history also shows us that random acts of kindness have changed the course of many battles, and indeed history it's self. Although I do remember the ending of that video stating something simular, pointing out that each of us has the ability to change the outcome by conquering our fears and coming from a place of love. I think that's truly something to strive for.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 08:54 AM by Rumrunner
Flagged...My husband and I watched it and thought it was great!



reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:01 AM by fauxhawk wolves
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People. People are the problem. Their lack of thought, their lack of seeking, their lack of caring and their willingness to take advantage of those that do lack skills, thought and caring. And where all predatory. Cannibalistic if you will.

[edit on 28-3-2008 by fauxhawk wolves]


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:17 AM by Rockpuck
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Ok. I agree. Whats this got to do with Catholics, Masons and subversive government entities secretly plotting our demise? ... Why can't it just be what it is? .. Incompetent Humans ruling further incompetent Humans resulting in a corrupt system of self destruction?

Why does there always have to be this romantic story to make it more interesting?


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:24 AM by interestedalways
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I would guess that they need the backing of these powerful institutions to keep the status que while the plan is being implemented.

Just an idea.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 11:38 AM by Rockpuck
reply to post by interestedalways



Whats the plan exactly? WHY would they plan it? What is the benefit? I mean, the country, the world, the currency .. these collapse.. if the people die off or are in camps..

The rich are no longer rich. They are poor as dirt, as their cotton money means nothing.

So..

All these politicians who are not Masons, are not Catholic, are not Illuminated in any way, can hardly piss without a helper to guide them, are so self consumed they hardly know whats going on out side their offices..

Are secretly collaborating with these groups to murder everyone and take over the world.

Banks already control the world. Its already theres..

They did not need an army.

They did not need the Masons.

They did not need the Catholics

They did not need cattle cars and secret camps..

And they certainly did not collaborate a plan to get Americans to hand over everything they own from the food they eat to the house they live in..

It took some TV commercials...

And Human greed.

And what'd ya know. They owned you.

Rather..

We gave our selves to them upon the alter of greed and pompous arrogance.

The only conspiracy is the conspiracy of Human stupidity.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 12:06 PM by fauxhawk wolves
Originally posted by Rockpuck
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post by fauxhawk wolves



Ok. I agree. Whats this got to do with Catholics, Masons and subversive government entities secretly plotting our demise? ... Why can't it just be what it is? .. Incompetent Humans ruling further incompetent Humans resulting in a corrupt system of self destruction?

Why does there always have to be this romantic story to make it more interesting?


As violence begets violence...complacency begets complacency. And it never ends until the majority of the species awakens from a hellish past and present, and realize that service to self isn't the way, that we could advance our world to a level never seen before in all versions of history, by thinking through the other persons mind and walking in their shoes for that second in time. Look....all the labels like Catholics, Masons, evil Governments are just us, the general public, pointing the finger and placing blame on someone or something that makes us feel like it's not our doing, or our fault, that where headed down the garden path. But vested intrests are indeed in this fight for control.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 12:22 PM by Long Lance
d'uh i'm not goint to read the entire tread just to place a few minor critizisms and point out one major, even unforgivable flaw:


*) at one point they tried to tell me how 80% were followers (by default), while they unquestioningly fall into the very same trap of using statistics. i'm sorry, but having a little CT experience and done a bit of discussion on Global Warming™, there's one lessen you learn, namely that statistics are more often than not designed to mislead and the only way to avoid it is to have at least some of the underlying data and methods at hand for a plausibility check. in this regard, they are very much following.

*) next is the left/right brain dichotomy. if you've never seen 19th century versions of the chart, which had approximately 40 different sections for greed, lust, money, virtue and whatnot, which in their time, were considered state of the art, just as the newer one, they might just pass the sucker check. for me they don't and associating emotion and 'reason' to feminine and masculine qualities, respectively is not exactly critical thinking either.

*) harmony and DNA, uh well love and HF. i find their presentation naive, in a slightly cute way. it's true that cymatics are interesting, but i strongly suspect that audible sound frequencies aren't really able to directly affect DNA strands, because of their miniscule dimensions. either way, they are borrowing from mainstream science that everything has to act through the DNA somehow, which lends further creedence they aren't really trying to think out of the box here, either.


the big flaw is simply the ending advice, everything will change with your consciousness... no action required, no protest, no preparation, nothing.

i'm not a leading example when it comes to preparations, i admit, but at least i know that i'll have to do something to influence anything. whoever put this film together, probably knows, too....


PS: overall a good summary, but the conclusions might as well be out of the Iron Mountain report's Appendix #33, titled 'How to Convert and use Potential Dissidents in your Favour'.



reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 12:47 PM by Rockpuck
reply to post by fauxhawk wolves



Ok. So you imagine a Utopia, a world in which we as a species exist as such, a species. And that all cultural, historic, ethnic, racial, ideological, ethical, financial, sexual, even proportional divides will disappear and we can all be friends?

Thats not how we operate.. its not how we are programed.. it never has been this way, it never will.

Every generation is in a corner.. always the wrong way, whats the better way, ironically past generations moved to this system to better their lives and make a better world for themselves. But no generation likes what they have. Those born in a Democracy want something else.. those born in a Communist state want a Democracy, those in a Monarchy want either, those in Communist and Democracies fantasize about the days of kings and queens, and those in despotism want socialism, those in capitalist societies want communism, and those in communist want capitalism.

Essentially we as Humans are programmed to want something new and exciting.. the old systems grow weary and when they do, when we stop caring the system becomes decrepit and fails. Democracy was once prevalent. It died. Feudalism solved many problems.. but it failed. Communism was a Utopian dream.. and it perished. Democracy came back to save us from Tyrants on a throne .. and its dieing.

No government will last forever, nor should it. God forbid we sit in one system for to long, like cancer, it will eat our souls. But what is our generations cause? What are we doing? Nothing.. because nothing is wrong yet, to the point, where we do something.

Governments and societies are not converted by the pen stroke of a man, nor are the altered by the ideologies of an oligarchy, nor are the controlled from board rooms and offices.

Change is in the hearts of the people. When the people become dissatisfied with their lives, how its run, how the governments treat them.. change will come. In the form of utterly revolting violence.

Only through the masses will any of this take place.. while the government may be corrupt, they are no more corrupt now then they where 100 years ago. And they won't get any more corrupt. But like a snow ball effect whats new to one generation is old to the next, policies by our fathers and their fathers run our lives, and this is where the struggle between the masses and the government will cause friction. There is a set way. This is the order of things. But its the newer folks displeased, questioning, as is our nature, the very foundation upon which the past generation set up our government. Soon they become obsolete.

It is these ideologies that is the conspiracy.. the government is what it is and nothing more. You guys think the Gov is MOVING to SOMETHING.. but in reality it just .. is.. it is what it is.. but its not what you want it to be.. so i becomes your enemy. Its policies are not what you want it to project, its actions go against your moral stances, and its very foundation does not corolate with your ideologies.

So instead of understanding WHY you feel the way you feel, it is then considered that there must be something, someone, some EVILness that is out there causing it, the government, to act the way it does.. and so scapegoats are created and used as excuses.. a method to project and focus your anger and frustration at. Instead of our past generations, our system its self, and the viral nature of Human Beings, we blame these entities.

Ironic as it is, if we blamed who deserved to be blamed, OUR SELVES, real change could occur. Until then we will blame fictional characters in a myriad of conspiracies that make no sense logically all the while the further decay of our system, our moral foundation, our very principles upon which we once founded our lives, corrodes from under us. Turn off your TV. Take a hike. Eat a god damn vegetable that does not come in a bag. BE PROACTIVE. Change begins at the lowest and most simple of levels. If we taught our children to live by these principles instead of gluing their faces to the TV to watch Dora the Explorer because we such # lousy parents and to god damn lazy to entertain our kids with a book and their patents voice, perhaps there would be an informed population base to rebuke the materialistic nature that is accelerating in our society. This is the decay of morals, the decay of culture, and the accelerating death of our people. It is ignorance.

But we can continue to blame secret organizations that are controlling our minds and making us be horrible people and submit to idiocracy that is prevalent in every aspect of our Pop culture. We can blame Catholics, Masons and Jews.

Maybe this sounds like a rant. But I despise childish finger pointing from those who ought to be taking the responsibility for their own self inflicted hypocritical situation.

But like I said. The only conspiracy is the conspiracy of Human stupidity.


reply posted on 28-3-2008 @ 02:57 PM by cashlink
I dont know, As food prices sore & oil prices keep climbing and the near housing collapsing all around us, and the unemployment rise, and the dollar is near collapsing, and more and more countries refusing to take the dollar.
The Feds keep printing more worthless money to prop the stock market up, and bail out the banks and morgage company.
Energy cost on home heating and air are going through the roof.
Flower and grain are climbing at an all time high all over the world.
The wealth in this Country is quickly moveing to Europe.
More and more reports are coming out of Wasington the Bush & Cheney
want war with Iran... another oil grab!
Now the Government has turn on us, they have made it legal to ease drop
on our phone conversation and spy on us on the internet in the name of TERRORISM!
Now new laws are been pass to tear down more of our Constitutional rights.
Oh not to mention that we pass Laws to torture our prisoner... like water boarding.
And now Bush has sign a bill to aloud foreign troops in our Country if Marshal law is implement.
What about all these camps that are being built and old ones being restored in America..
All I can say THATS not for TERRORIST, THATS for US!
I beleive the Government thinks there maybe an upriseing against them.
Because WE THE PEOPLE will have had enough of there LIEING STEALING
LOOTING WASTING OF WAR SPENDING.
Trillions of dollars missing and will never be found, and a Goverment that feels it dosent have to be held Accountable for anything!
Not to mention Our Government has STOLEN A NUCLEAR BOMB last year and it still hasnt been accounted for. No one seems to know where it is.
I think this film speak for it self, If we just stand back for a min and take a good look of what is really going on.We will notice it is all coming very true.
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