If they have been trying this for ages then why haven't they succeeded? Are they waited for the right time or just not trying at all? I don't know if this is true or just more lies, but we all need to learn a little more about the men and women behind closed doors. The video is definatly right when it comes to them knowing everything about us and we don't know even half of that about them. And any of you fellow members who own guns. Do not give them up! I honestly doubt they would help us with all the secret military weapons that the government has, but I'm keeping my guns.

BTW he says 98 percent of europe rejected flouridation of their water. Also he said that the food is going to go bad in 2009 and its codex policies will be implemented in 2009 worldwide.Although it already uses steroids and hormones on cattle and so forth, the food will be ok till 2009 acording to the video.

Originally posted by Karlhungis


I think I would have preferred the opposite ratio. I could use a bit more time devoted to explaining how to love a government that will do such attrocious things. That seems like no small task if you ask me.

I would have agreed with you more a while ago. Loving the human and natural aspect is the bigger spiritual picture. Getting past the actions intended/unintended is difficult. However- most of the people that are doing these horrible things are not even aware. If they did possess the facts it is highly doubtful they would remain in support of their superiors. This is true and whistleblowers are proof of this. Many a whistle blower have perpetrated incredibly heinous acts- until they figured it out and/or received information which finally caused them to shift their responsibility back to nature.

Whatever will happen, and with only seen the first 1 hour: Don't worry! They are the ones we should feel for, because they are they ones beeing captive to themselfs. In the end we are the ones beeing free, and they are the ones beeing stuck in their guilt forever.

Just keep smiling at them, and let them think that they have won a war inside this tiny world, when they really lost the real war within their minds. Give them this moment of victory, before they fall for infinity. We don't need to fear anything, they need to fear everything.

My 2 cents...

I found it to be interesting, thought-provoking, depressing, odd, and scary. It bothers me considerably that he says christians are part of this attempt to poison everyone about half way threw, and take people's land and stuff them in cubicles. My husband and I are both christians and both disabled from the junk they put into inoculations. In fact, they gave him a shot that put me in a coma on total life support. I'm lucky to even be here today.

Don't let his info confuse you. I think he may even be a little confused. He says it's pagans who worship the earth that are going to pull this off, and that christians won't even see the hammer before it falls on them, and then he goes on to saying he's basically a pagan, at the end of it. He says the problem is the people who know the meaning of the symbols and the people who promote the symbols, then he shows the cross, the masonic square, the all seeing eye, etc as the symbols in question, then says they are the problem.

He talked about how "they" want to keep us in fear and then he proceeds to dip the thing in about ten gallons of his own fear. it's a very odd video. i'm not sure he has completely made up his own mind who the culprit is.

[edit on 27-3-2008 by undo]

I just got done watching the video in the OP, and OMG! OMG! OMG! I've been sitting here in shocked silence for about the last 20 minutes not knowing what to think. All of a sudden so many things make since to me.

I'm a nurse and a while ago I started a thread about the nursing profession and how the system sets us up for failure. At first no one responded to it and I began to think no one cared, but then ppl started to reply and over the last few days many have come forward to share stories that confirm what I've been saying all along. The system sets us up for failure! And, why not? In light of what I watched on this video today it all makes since now! If the Powers that be have the intention of systematically annihilate us, then of course they wouldn't want us to actually help ppl.

If you don't mind I'd like to share that video with the ppl in my thread, I think those that have been feeling frustrated and angry about the abuses we experience from day to day, in this business, would be greatly interested in what it has to say.

This is all true! but none are getting out of this world alive anyway I'm not saying don't speak up about it we need to know this. It's not practical or easy to get an army together to fight what I'm getting at is to the larger scheme of things. At the beginning of the video allot of ancient stuff about earlier civilizations ie Egypt invested in watching stars they were able to see and know the cycles this is all a natural course. I may get flack for writing that statement. I must say that I have children. I don't want any suffering I have experienced the face of war. I try to live this moment the best I can day by day but that's me and I would appreciate any replies to this way of thinking. As for me I see the writing on the wall I have some kind of faith this will all come out in the wash albeit 10,000 years in our time or whatever. Thanks for the post it brought some things together for me

This video is very informative to say the least. I too am left numb. Seeing media from someone else's viewpoint was a real eye opener.

I think the most I got out of it was the line, not to join a leader and his cause but to be your own leader, everyone be their own leader.
The lighting of a dark scary room with one candle removes the fear of the dark but turning the lights off does not scare the informed and enlightened. This was another.

The piece about Iraq was very disturbing. Between the sanctions back then and the war today, its mind boggling how many have been killed in that country.

I am left to ponder this information and take from it what I need in my life.

To the ones who stomp their feet to its half truths and lies, glad you watched it but your bashing does not stop the spread of information and what we need to do with it. That is to think for yourself, research for yourself and find your own answers.

Theres no doubt the world is over run with bad people doing bad things and it looks as though evil has a foot hold in this world shaping it towards an agenda for the archons.

The human being is easy to manipulate and deceive for evils purpose to over run the realm of man since the age of gods has gone. We are left to our own salvation by the goodness of those who learned to resist the temptations of evil and practice moral and ethically correct interfacing's with other human beings.

I blame religion for where we are since it placed a guilt trip on the human being that is exploited to benefit evils hold. Its ok for evil to kill but as one of the ten commandments tells us, thou shall not kill. How can we win the fight with evil if it is allowed to live after it kills the innocence.

The only remedy I see is to get your spirit out of the reincarnation loop and let evil destroy this world. Maybe the next time the age of mans creation will be better, though I doubt it.

very intersting viewing indeed. In all honesty there was nothing new in there that hadn't already been discussed in previous doco's of this nature, but the way in which it was presented was very well done and kept me viewing all the way to the end.

i will be keeping a close eye on future events regarding this and look forward to seeing what happens in Dec 2012.....

You all have to relies by now that the government here in the USA has only one real enemy, and thats the internet.
I am sure the government is working on away to control what information
can be blog or post, to stop the truth, about everything they dont want us to know.
If I didnt have the internet I would not know a thing.
I would be in the dark the way they would want me.
I would still beleived in the Government version of 911.
I would have never knowing Ron Paul was still running for President.
I would never hear about the vote fraud.
And I wouldnt have found this video.
This is just the beginning. We are wakening up, So let them try and take away our internet in the name of terrorism.
Because thats the ONLY way they will try!
I have to go cool down! and just think WE THE PEOPLE gave them all this power by voteing some of these thugs in Office it really make me sick.

Originally posted by cashlink
You all have to relies by now that the government here in the USA has only one real enemy, and thats the internet.
I am sure the government is working on away to control what information
can be blog or post, to stop the truth, about everything they dont want us to know.

I feel your pain friend! lol I've met ppl on line in other countries including Ireland, Australia, Jordan, and Argentina. I've been talking with these ppl for about 2 years now and it's interesting how ignorant of world affairs we Americans are. Rosie O'Donnell once said, when she was on the View, "If you want to learn about America go outside this country and talk with others". I believe that to be a true statement. In the last 2 and a half years I've gone from being a blind follower of the American Christian ideal to a person who questions everything. For me it's been a bit like waking up from a coma, and the internet is largely responsible.

I used to work as an advocate for the homeless, and volunteered as a community organizer. One of the ways that we got polititians to do what we wanted was to invite them into public forums and shame them publicly into signing agreements with the community to clean up certain problems. During one of these public forums our host, if you will, had the city manager on the hot seat and was attempting to get him to agree with our plan. The tone of the forum that day was light and everyone was having fun. This guy was humorous and danced around the issues casually entertaining and mezmerizing the crowd, but as our host continued to drive him towards our purpose he made a comment that I'll never forget. He said, "There is a certain percentage of the population that we concider expendable" This was a flippant comment and was sandwiched in between jokes, but I felt like I had just been hit between the eyes with a 2x4. I looked around me at the smiling faces of the crowd, ppl who were supposed to be there fighting the cause with me, and nobody got it! This man had just told us that there were some of us that the government deemed unworthy to live, and no one heard! I looked over my shoulder at the 4 homeless men we had brought with us, three of which are Vietnam Veterans, and all of them had tears in their eyes. They got it! On that day and in that hour my life changed, and my heart broke for this country. I was ascorted out of the building for stating very loudly, "Where the hell are the assasins when you need one!" I was making a flippant joke, but I guess threatening a sanctmonious polititian is not included in that certain percentage of the population that is expendable.

I can't work in the political arena anymore, it just pisses me off too much.

HOLY SH!!T!! please excuse the language but that movie literally left me with my jaw dropped and my mind boggling. I thought I seen some crazy stuff and heard phenomenal ideas but that was really informing and inspirational. I can't say I understood it all, but from what I did its really amazing.

OK, I see alot of fear in here. After watching this I was stunned too! Then I started thinking about the positive things in this world. Like all the good people in this country. There's people becoming heroes everyday. Saving life's and doing things that go way beyond the call of duty. The kindness in strangers who care. Doctors who operate and save life's. Soldiers who stand for strength and courage even if we think this war is bad, these soldiers have more courage and guts than I'll ever have and to do what they do at such a young age. I think about house's for humanity and the people who volunteer their time to help build them. All other voluntary works from others. I think about all the good in this world and know that we are gonna make it and if this video has any truth to it then they are out numbered by us good people who care and will never let it happen.