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Topic started on 24-3-2008 @ 05:13 PM by Warlon
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Just wondering? Why can't we travel faster than the speed of light? I have read that most scientists agree with Einstein when he stated that we will
never travel faster than the speed of light because as a object nears plank speed (Close to the speed of light if I understand correctly) it's mass
becomes infinately larger, so there is not enough power in the universe to push it past the light barrier. But why not? do they have proof of this or
is this still a theory. Haven't scientists pushed particles to the speed of light in accelerators (SP)? or are they stuck at a percentage of the
speed of light? I am just currious. if it is a power problem then why couldn't you use the energy released by the anialation (sp) of matter/dark
(anti) matter? if there is as much dark matter in the cosmos as I have read then there should be an abundance of "fuel" available for the
"engine". Just a thought.
Could some of you help me fight ignorance? Thanks
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 05:32 PM by ambigram
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Im fairly certain it is only a theory at this point, i dont think we've gotten anything to travel the speed of light to prove for sure. I think it
might be because we dont know of anything that exists faster than the speed of light, thus we dont think it can exist. Maybe its like the color
spectrum, and we can only observe it in this dimension, and if we exit this dimension we dont technically exist here anymore. But im not a physicist
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 05:41 PM by Neiby
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Do a search for "relativity speed of light" or something like that and read the material you find there. You both should understand the topic a bit
better after some reading.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 05:43 PM by VIKINGANT
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It can be done. It just hasn't so far. Even though Einstein and others say it can't there are just as many who say it can be done.
With regards to the mass question, only theory. So many people like to quote theory as fat which adds to the confusion of themselves and others.
Others will also quote all sort of numbers and equations o show what would happen if we reached the spped of light then go on to say it cannot be
done.
My question to them is, if there are numbers to show what WOULD happen, then why say it COUDLN'T happen?
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 06:03 PM by amitheone
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As long as you have mass, it is impossible to travel faster than light, as it requires infinite energy to move an infinite chunk of matter. You can do
the math. The energy is so enormous reaching infinity. It's impossible. Even if you combine the whole energy of the universe, it does not come close.
Even if you have millions of universes combined, you still cannot come close.
They key here is, if you want to travel faster than light, then you have to be massless. But then again, if you can travel faster than light, you'll
be going backwards in time.
The speed of light is the limit for objects with mass. Its like a car moving to a stop. You can't slow it down even more.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 06:40 PM by Grock
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I dont remember the exact wording, but it isnt that we 'cannot go faster than light', the correct way to view it is that 'we cannot accellerate up
to and surpass' the speed of light... if we could somehow reach the speed without acellerating to get there, it can be done.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:24 PM by metaldemon2000
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I was listening to a radio show yesterday where they spoke about this. Apparently Stephen Hawking believes that it is possible but you would need to
harness an amount of dark matter similer to the mass of jupiter. For now it is apparently possible but from what Hawkings theories suggest it is only
something a type 2 or 3 civilization can achieve. Since we are a type 0 civ then i guess its sorry about our luck.
Anyways here is the link to the exact show i was listening to in case your interested.
www.cbc.ca...
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:30 PM by hikix
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When you say, why can 'we' travel faster than light, are you referring to humans? Because, I am under the impression that nothing travels faster
than the speed of light (except the speed of darkness, off course).
So, if nothing that we know of can travel faster than the speed of light, a vehicle carrying a human could surely never do it.
Apparently the way ETs travel is by entering another dimension, then re-entering the third dimension in another area, thus looking like their vehicle
has disappeared... yet it has simply entered into another dimension. And I base that statement on absolutely nothing.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:33 PM by hikix
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Please visit this thread to see the key to time travel
www.abovetopsecret.com...
This thread will show you how to time travel by harnessing the speed of light. And, the kicker... its based on absolutely nothing!
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 09:18 PM by dts01
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There was a Scientist in the 1930s called Karl Verner Hisenburg, Spellin may be well off but none the less that stated if the molecular structure of
anything was broken down and packed into some kind of vehicle to match or beat the speed of light. There is no way what so ever that we could put it
all back together.
That isn't to say we can't travel faster than the speed of light. Chances are we can. But what are we going to do with the mush at the of said
journey is basically what he was saying.
The very makeup of everything in life has different velocities', viscosities and mass. If we could break down matter to a sub-atomic level. How are
we going to put it all back together. And if we could. How are we going to make sure it was put back in the right order..
It's incredibly vague I know. But Karl Verner Hisenburg won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1932. 1932 for cryin out loud..
The argument is by no means redundant. But it's one that has scientists busy..
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 09:55 PM by metaldemon2000
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A reply to a post earlier that says we havent made anything travel at the speed of light. We have created current carrying devices and radio
transmitting devices have we not? My question is, if we can create a substance that can transport molecules that travel at the speed of light, why can
we not do with ourselves and why cant we study how these objects do it? Electricity is a very simple concept.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:06 PM by dracodie
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Originally posted by hikix
When you say, why can 'we' travel faster than light, are you referring to humans? Because, I am under the impression that nothing travels faster
than the speed of light (except the speed of darkness, off course).

you got that wrong, darkness is the absence of light
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:10 PM by downtown436
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I thought I read a thread about someone at the crazy huge particle accelerator in Europe that accelerated something past the speed of light. I could
be totally wrong.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:16 PM by dracodie
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REPLY TO:downtown436
i think you are referring to tachyon particles( theorically they can travel faster than light) if i am not mistaken
and im not sure but a experience was made in a belgian laboratory. in which they tried to make particles travel above the speed of light i dont have
info about this now so maybe im wrong
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:17 PM by dracodie
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oops my mistake , double post
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 12:03 AM by lnaphx
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Isn't our measurement technology limited by light speed? Earth-based, gravity affected, distance-viewed, and limited to measurement by objects of
matter and light, in this bubble of matter called earth. A faster than light 'thing' would not be detectable today. Circular development trap -
when we develop ftl measuring technology, then we can understand ftl accurately, and when we can understand ftl accurately, then we can develop ftl
measuring technology.
Someone is going to have to stick their neck outside of acceptable science to get to ftl, but no respectable scientist would want to abandon
acceptable scence, so the brainiacs are chained. They might have to rewrite all science systems to get to that level though, making them look like a
complete quack, possibly for thousands of years.
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 12:58 AM by amitheone
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If our main problem is going from one distant destination to another, one does not need to go the speed of light as this is not necessary, but you can
go through a wormhole, the Einstein-Rosen bridge to warp space time.
What is the Einstein-Rosen bridge?? The Einstein-Rosen bridge is a geometrical property of a black hole that manifests itself in that on the other
side of the black hole another set of dimensions has been attached to the one from our universe. This makes passage through this bridge and hence into
another universe a mathematical possibility.
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 01:21 AM by nobe123
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there is something faster than the speed of light but it is only a myth. Is a particle found on the string theory its name tachyon, it is said that
this particle is infinite in which light is finite also dark light may be faster than light because light expands the universe at a minimum rate
dark energy (dark light) expands the universe at a faster rate. also remember in quantum mechanics the particles are waves and particles at the same
time in which light could be slow down by mass of the particle and that light may travel faster as a wave
ex: light get to its destination and the tachyon keeps going an never stops
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 02:20 AM by ambushrocks
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I was wondering what quantumphysics has to say about time travel.
I saw what the bleep do we know an that states that mass isn't really mass, that molecules just pretend to be mass but they are really just energy.
(Maybe not a great way to explain it... the movie does a way better job than I  )
Anyway... someone here that knows a bit more about quantumphysics and timetravel?
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 02:23 AM by Phat_Pleiades
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Why would you need to travel faster thant the Speed of light?
Yes, why?, you don't need to travel faster than the speed of light; of course you don't even need to think about it, if you know the secret and
locked trick of universe that will allow you to instantaneously jump from one point in the universe to another one, hundreds, thousands or milliom of
light years away.
As other people had stated before, Einsten predicted in his studies of the relativity that the closer you get to the speed of light, the bigger your
mass becomes, up to a point when you become total energy, wich will be a point of NO RETURN, how would you return to be what you were before, now that
you have achieved and infinite mass and become pure energy?
Its imposible, but like I said, you don't have to, even if you would be able to get close or reach the speed of light; it will still take you
hundreds or thousands of years traveling at that speed to reach other stars or the other side of the galaxy or other galaxies, even if you could
somehow protect you and your spacecraft in some kind of a buble that will prevent your, and your ship mass to increase and become energy, it will take
you a long long time, a long time you will not survive to get to your destination.
However, there is an alternative, Einstein had also predicted that the Space-Time fabric can be folded or curved, Einstein found that the space-time
fabric is actually constantly curved by gravity, so there is the trick, that is the workaround we are going to use to avoid great distances and
time.
The trick is to be able to somehow focus gravity with a certain intensity directed to the destination point, but out of phase, so instead of pushing
away the destination point, we will curve the space-time fabric agains us, bringing the destination point closer to us, for when our destination is
curved enough we can just do an small jump in between the 2 points, by triggering an opening in the space-time fabric, a sort of small worm-whole.
But how?
How do we produce gravity?
Answer: We cannot produce gravity.
Clarification: Gravity is a WAVE, Not a particle
So for those of you that still think or theorise about the posible existence of the Graviton Particle, I am sorry to tell you that does not exist.
Gravity is a wave, and there is 2 kinds of gravity, the one produced by planets or stars, and the one produced by atoms, so the trick is to obtain the
gravity waves produced in the atoms, since the gravity is a wave, this one can be amplified, and vouala!!!.
Thats the magic trick, easy to explain, the problem now is, how do we make this work with the actual lack of technology?
Up to the early 90's we weren't still able to understand how the reactor that actually does this, would function, and get the atoms of this element
to increase their gravity waves beyond the vicinities of the orbits of its electrons, even worst how can this be a purely clean and 100% eficient
reaction.
All we knew is that this amazing technology did not need any wires or cables or remote controls, everything worked as it was designed for, but without
any visible controls, just as if it was dictated by nature to work the way it worked.....................................
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