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When the Egyptians reasserted dominance over Egypt at the start of the New Kingdom, they actively expelled as many foreigners as they could. Life got fairly harsh for these foreigners, who were called "habiru," which was applied to landless aliens (taken from the word, "apiru," or foreigner). Is this where the Hebrews got their name? It's a hotly contested issue.
The influences do not stop in Egypt, however, since the Exodus also has striking similarities with the Indian Mahabarata [kg]. Moses himself has been equated with various of the Egyptian Pharoes and (like Jesus) with the mythical Osiris [mo].
Moreover, the historical evidence shows that the Jewish people did not become monotheistic until around 800 BC [jt]. It would appear that the "story" of Exodus then became incorporated into the Jewish canon based on older verbal traditions.
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
In what i know of sources using (except Apion) Manetho (Egyptian ancient historian) he (or his followers) considered Jews/Hebrews to be Hyksos. Whether it is true or not, it is probably that their agreed that Hebrews were not native to Egypt.
Am not aware of Greek historians who talk about origin of Hebrews.
Versions of Jewish historians (from book of kings to writings by Josephus Flavius) also do not support Egyptian origin of Jews/Hebrews
Roman historian Strabo supported your version,by saying he is based this on most credited report (Apion?).
The Hebrew language/writings/alphabet shows no to little resemblance to Egyptian one. More Phoenician/Semitic in origin.
Religion is and was different, however monotheistic ideas appeared in Egypt also.
Originally posted by Choronzon
I apologize, I think my OP and subsequent articles may have been confusing.
I'm not really interested in the bloodlines so to speak, but that their religious rituals and beliefs may have derived from egyptian theology at the time. Namely the torah itself.
Originally posted by Choronzon
I apologize, I think my OP and subsequent articles may have been confusing.
I'm not really interested in the bloodlines so to speak, but that their religious rituals and beliefs may have derived from egyptian theology at the time. Namely the torah itself.
Originally posted by mazzroth
Akhenaten plays an interesting role in all this talk of the Jewish race being acvtually of Egyptian bloodline. The fact that monotheism began with his rule and eventually the Judaic Faith based itself on this unique single "God" of worship could indicate they were kicked out of Egypt after Akhenaten died.
That the PreistHood were particualrly ticked off with their loss of power and thus to regain it they persecuted/excommunicated all of Akhenaten's followers and hence the legend of the "Exodus" began is possible.
Originally posted by Byrd
I'm in a rush, but if you have specific points I can belabor them later this evening.