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What if Jesus was what you would call gay?

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posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
your version of hell does not exist for me. Hell is what I create on this earth and what I create in my mind.

no one but "God" will ever judge me and when he does he will either send me back to learn more lessons of life in some form or another or allow me to become one again with him.


Listen to yourself. You have just judged yourself and carried out your sentence without even having God in the equation b/c you already KNOW what he's gonna do.

First of all, it never said what you are syaing in the Bible so you are WRONG!




posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
I am amazed at how all the people here are so willingly happy to go to Hell.


Things will be what they will be. I will not bow down as a slave to anyone...god or man. God gave me that choice, so he would understand.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
First of all, it never said what you are syaing in the Bible so you are WRONG!


Ever consider that the bible is wrong? What is the popular version now? The King James version. Makes you wonder what was in the other versions that made it different. Which one is the true bible and is that true one of any value? If you pray to the bible and I pray to Hortin Hears A Who, we are going to get the same results...sorry!



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:07 AM
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Well, its no question that you lack wisdom and are going to Hell.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by worldwatcher
your version of hell does not exist for me. Hell is what I create on this earth and what I create in my mind.

no one but "God" will ever judge me and when he does he will either send me back to learn more lessons of life in some form or another or allow me to become one again with him.


Listen to yourself. You have just judged yourself and carried out your sentence without even having God in the equation b/c you already KNOW what he's gonna do.

First of all, it never said what you are syaing in the Bible so you are WRONG!


REPEAT!!!! ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE ME. and yes, I am allowed to judge myself, since God is a part me and I am a part of God, we, GOD and I, are the only one who have any rights to cast judgement on my actions in life.
However I have not sentenced myself to anything, I do not know if I have a lived a good enough life to achieve Nirvana or if I will be sent back to live another life, only God will decide that.

I don't quite understand you Colonel, you claim that Jesus is Black but the bible doesn't say that, but yet you jump to the otherside when trying to defend your point by saying "the bible doesn't say that"

That is the problem with your religion and the Bible, it is and can be used to argue many points with different points of view. In one hand, it is wrong to kill another man, but in another it is okay to commit murder by stoning for a rebellious child.

You and your bible are full of contradictions. But you miss the whole point of this discussion, would you accept a White Man who states he is Jesus? Will the Whites accept a Black man who states he is Jesus? My point is, don't be so judgemental, when you yourself expect others to be open minded to your suggestions that Jesus is black.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:17 AM
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Wrong again!

I have clearly pointed out where the Bible states where Jesus is black as well as the Israelites in Scripture. I have pointed out why the real identity must be known using scripture. And I have pointed out what the meaning of this false christ is.


You have just used YOUR OWN judgment for judging yourself and GOD had nothing to do with it.


[Edited on 23-2-2004 by Colonel]



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
Well, its no question that you lack wisdom and are going to Hell.


Funny thing, as it seems to me, is that every time you do not do not have a leg to stand on in defence that you resort to "WRONG WRONG WRONG" or "You're going to hell!" or 'No you're a racist". Just like a child that has run out of semi-intelligent thought and resorts to playyard mindless ranting.

No offence intended...just an observation.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:22 AM
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Well, that's fine. It doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL, AND YOU ARE A RACIST.

No harm no foul, eh?



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
Well, that's fine. It doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL, AND YOU ARE A RACIST.


And if I was all of these things that you claim, doesn't your bible teach you to be caring and compasionate to your fellow man? Or do you only abide by the parts and interpretations that benefit you most?



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Jonna

Originally posted by Colonel
Well, that's fine. It doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG, YOU ARE GOING TO HELL, AND YOU ARE A RACIST.


And if I was all of these things that you claim, doesn't your bible teach you to be caring and compasionate to your fellow man? Or do you only abide by the parts and interpretations that benefit you most?


So, I should be kind and compassionate to evil? I should be kind and compassionate to things that God hates? That makes sense right?



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:29 AM
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okay colonel, I am going to Hell and you are going to Heaven.


I have passed my Judgement on you.

I've made my points, any intelligent, open minded person will clearly see that. There is nothing wrong with having opinions, God gave us Free Will for that reason, no one can ever claim to know the truth, because the truth is not knowable until we meet our maker, until till then I will take chance. I'm done sharing my 2 cents in this topic.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
okay colonel, I am going to Hell and you are going to Heaven.


I have passed my Judgement on you.

I've made my points, any intelligent, open minded person will clearly see that. There is nothing wrong with having opinions, God gave us Free Will for that reason, no one can ever claim to know the truth, because the truth is not knowable until we meet our maker, until till then I will take chance. I'm done sharing my 2 cents in this topic.



I see that you have a direct pipeline to God so you know His Will. All I know is that He said not to follwo other religons and philosphies.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
So, I should be kind and compassionate to evil? I should be kind and compassionate to things that God hates? That makes sense right?


Isn't that what makes good, good? The ablility to not show evil, vengence, revenge, hatred, etc for that which is given to you? The ability to turn the other cheek?

So you believe that you are pure good? A thing is neither good nor evil unto itself. It is its actions which make these definitions possible.

May I ask you a question? Why do you seem like such an angry person? To my knowledge, no one here has wronged you. Perhaps you should begin to display some of your god's good will.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
I see that you have a direct pipeline to God so you know His Will. All I know is that He said not to follwo other religons and philosphies.


damn it, I said I was done!!

but Colonel, my God and religion tells me that other philosophies and religions are okay and that there are more than one path that leads to enlightment. I too can swear by my religion and my religion's holy book, and denounce yours, however I choose not to because that is not the message of my religion... all religions share one common message about the true God, it is Men like yourself who choose to interpret it in different ways to serve your own agendas.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Jonna

May I ask you a question? Why do you seem like such an angry person? To my knowledge, no one here has wronged you.


I am The Colonel.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher

Originally posted by Colonel
I see that you have a direct pipeline to God so you know His Will. All I know is that He said not to follwo other religons and philosphies.


damn it, I said I was done!!

but Colonel, my God and religion tells me that other philosophies and religions are okay and that there are more than one path that leads to enlightment. I too can swear by my religion and my religion's holy book, and denounce yours, however I choose not to because that is not the message of my religion... all religions share one common message about the true God, it is Men like yourself who choose to interpret it in different ways to serve your own agendas.




And who is your God? It certainly cannot be the God of Abraham b/c what you speak of by following other religons and philosophies is blasphemous to Lord and you will be a blight in his sight b/c of it.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by lilblam

Originally posted by Illmatic67
Mikro, I am ashamed.

I really enjoy reading your posts and I believe your a top 10 poster here at ATS but this thread has lost you some points.

Jesus was married.

His wife was Mary Magdalene (sp?)

[Edited on 2-22-2004 by Illmatic67]


Was never married, had 3 girlfriends though.


We will NEVER know for sure, but, in a little village called Rennes-le-Chateau, the French believe, Mary Magdalene came after the death of Christ. And because of her influence, a whole order of fighting men, known as the Knights Templar, were created.

There is also the "legend" that Mary was pregnant, and that an "order" was created to protect the son of Mary and ..........???? Jesus???
I am still searchng for the link, but it is an offshoot of the Rennes-le-Chateau legend.

www.templeofsakkara.com...

there are several different links like this, BUT the Rennes-le-Chateau legend pretty much remains constant. Most state that Mary Magdalenes children, were kings of France...



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 10:58 AM
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Like I said, my God is not your God, however your arrogance and slander of others proves in your God's eyes that it is you that will be blighted and condemned not me, who percieves all with an open mind.

Mark 7:17
What comes out a a man is what him "unclean". For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immortality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean.

Once again Colonel, you're mindset and arguments are all contradictions upon contradictions...you use the words in the bible to suit your agenda when you see fit and contradict the very same bible when find that those same words can be interpreted a different way.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
Once again Colonel, you're mindset and arguments are all contradictions upon contradictions...you use the words in the bible to suit your agenda when you see fit and contradict the very same bible when find that those same words can be interpreted a different way.


WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG! You're a racist!



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by NetStorm

Originally posted by lilblam

Originally posted by Illmatic67




We will NEVER know for sure, but, in a little village called Rennes-le-Chateau, the French believe, Mary Magdalene came after the death of Christ. And because of her influence, a whole order of fighting men, known as the Knights Templar, were created.

There is also the "legend" that Mary was pregnant, and that an "order" was created to protect the son of Mary and ..........???? Jesus???
I am still searchng for the link, but it is an offshoot of the Rennes-le-Chateau legend.

www.templeofsakkara.com...

there are several different links like this, BUT the Rennes-le-Chateau legend pretty much remains constant. Most state that Mary Magdalenes children, were kings of France...


you can get more of this myth/story/legend that is
told/researched by the team of william Henry and
Sir Lawrence or something....google up Blue Apples
theres more on this frence 'stargate' at the chateau
[*i can't be more help as it may sound like i'm promoting the book & website*]



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