Jesus the Magician?, page 1
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:28 AM by darcon
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If Angel is really just a good magician or illusionist, then what of Christianity, was it founded a magician/illusionist?

I would like all Christians to come to the table and provide us with what you think, obviously you are not going to say that Jesus was a magician/illusionist, but still, i would like to hear what you guys think.

I would like all people that think Angel is just a Magician/Illusionist, come to the table, and say if you think Jesus was just a Good magician/illusionist, or if he was something else.

I would love to hear everyone's opinion, i think this is a very important subject.

[edit on 24-3-2008 by darcon]



reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:28 AM by MrPenny
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I've heard it suggested that Jesus traveled extensively within the timeframe not covered in the Bible. Much of his travels supposedly took him to India, where he learned a great deal from various fakirs and gurus.

Criss Angel is a very good illusionist.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:42 AM by darcon
reply to post by TheRedneck



Thanks red for the opinion, this is more of, personal Beliefs, but if anyone has any Scientific evidence, then present it please. Star for you


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 10:44 AM by darcon
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yes, i say Magician for Jesus(If he was one) because it would be hard to pull of illusions back then, yet it could be possible. But thanks for presenting that, i will fix my former posts to Magician/Illusionist.

[edit on 24-3-2008 by darcon]


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 01:21 PM by darcon
reply to post by Techsnow



I do indeed, but that is my opinion, everyone has one.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 01:30 PM by darcon
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Thanks for you opinion enthralled fan, Star for you

Much has to do with faith indeed.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 01:37 PM by Techsnow
Originally posted by darcon
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I do indeed, but that is my opinion, everyone has one.


I want to clear this up right now!

Those were all paid actors first off. Do you really think if he was actually walking on water ppl would be cheering?? NO! They would be in a state of shock, unable to speak!

The fact is, and believe it or not, there were square boxes of plexiglass in the pool.

If this were for real, do you really think he would be doing this on TV and not be dragged off to some lab and studied?

I will say this though, it would be awesome if it was real.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 01:43 PM by darcon
reply to post by Techsnow



Your opinion, not mine.



reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 01:45 PM by darcon
reply to post by Vasa Croe



Thanks for your opinion, like i said, i am not looking for any scientific proof, just opinions is all.

Star fro you.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 02:51 PM by Choronzon
In order to determine the likelihood of Christ being a Magus, which is what were referring to I believe, you would have to compare him with other magii from biblical times


  1. Simon Magus a gnostic magus.
  2. Moses who displayed magus like abilities before the egyptian mages. (It was considered childs play to turn a rod into a snake, or water into blood, something which the egyption mages supposedly did with ease).
    Note: Moses was raised and lived many years as Egyption royalty.
  3. King Solomon decried to have divine wisdom and some say power to control celestial entities through symbols and numbers.

...and many more. Some would even say that the magic used by these individuals and Christ himself was quabalistic in nature.

[edit on 3/24/2008 by Choronzon]


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 03:26 PM by darcon
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Thanks for the input, it''s nice to know some people take this seriously, as it is actually a serious Question, if there is some chance that Jesus was a Magician, then Christianity in general would be in jeopardy.

But i thank you for the input, star for you.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 03:27 PM by darcon
reply to post by kelbtalfenek



True there is know, educated opinion, but take a guess.
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