Originally posted by jackinthebox
Poverty, and lack of meaningful employment is the root cause of most of the terrible things we see on the domestic news. In one way or another, I can
show how poverty, or the threat of poverty, has created the bulk of the social ills we are experiencing today. Including drugs, school shootings,
domestic violence, even rape. It may not be clear to some, but I can show you the ties. Not through numbers necessarily, but through logical
deduction. I expect I will be returning to this thread to see what develops here.
My favorite sociology topic, having grown up from being dirt-poor to quite comfortable, is without a doubt the "poor". That being said, could you
please clarify your definition of "terrible" things, Jackinthebox?
Are you speaking of general societal ills, or specific incidents? To use the examples you provided above, I would ask you to explain how school
shootings are directly related to poverty. Considering that you cannot definitively prove such a thing, I would just like to know how you believe them
to be connected.
Poverty IS NOT the fault of those who have been shoved into the abyss.
Yes. Yes it is. Unless you are talking about people who are too mentallyphysically ill to actually care for themselves, or children who live in a poor
family (at which point its the fault of the parent/s), then the people who find themselves impoverished have themselves to blame. For some, they lack
the needed education to get a better job, or perhaps any job at all in their area. For others perhaps they have children at home, and cannot afford
childcare, or to leave the home. Regardless of the reason, the CAUSE of their current situation was the choices they made in life that lead them to
that point. Need a better education? Make the effort, and get one. Go to a community college, or a VoTech school, or a Goodwill center where they
offer job training, and get some skills. Hell, get a Mcjob and work your way up the ladder; I met a guy in college who worked as a Manager at McD's
and made over 44k per year. It can provide a living wage. For parents who cannot afford to leave the home because of their children, I would say that
perhaps they ought to spend less time on their backs, and more time on their feet, trying to find a job.
The only ones I feel any sympathy towards are the children of useless parents. While not going into great detail, my father was a bum (thankfully he
died several years ago), and my mother was a wreck growing up. They were useless parents. I decided what my life would become, and I took control of
it when I was able. Now Im college-educated, and making more money in a quarter than my entire family would have in a year.
Poverty, and the seemingly unedurable pain that accompanies it, can absolutely serve a purpose. Its not the worst thing in the world to be poor, but
it can be a great motivator, and teacher. I saw what happens when you don't work your a** off to get what you want, and I will be damned if I, or my
children, have to live that life. In a more general sense, the kids who come out of poverty can choose to either fight back, get an education and work
hard to improve their lot in life, or become a criminal, and a failure. Too bad, so sad.