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The Rapture Conspiracy

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posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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THIS IS NOT A DICUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE IN THE RAPTURE! I shouted because I know these threads usually end up in a pro and con rapture belief discussion.

This thread is to discuss what you believe will happen when a) the inevitable %*!& hits the fan and Christians have to live through it, or b) millions of people suddenly disappear from the earth.

Nuclear holocaust, biological or chemical warfare, natural disasters, hunger, famine, all seem to be at the front of many people’s minds. Millions of Christians believe that the Biblical “end times” are rapidly approaching. Many of these Christians believe that they will not have to endure these hardships due to their imminent rescue as Jesus snatches them out of this world.

I’m sure that Christians living during the Great Depression, World Wars I and II felt the same way. Yet, there was no rapture. When (not if) disaster strikes the US or the world in a major way, how are these people going to react when they’re still here?

On the other hand, if millions of people were to suddenly disappear from the earth, how would that be explained? Are ETs preparing for a mass abduction of humans? How would a mass disappearance of this scale be explained?

Whether or not posters believe in a pre-trib rapture, God or the Bible makes no difference. Since so many people do believe, how will their lives change when there is no rapture? Since so many people do not believe, how will their lives change if a sudden mass disappearance takes place?




posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:14 PM
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This thread is to discuss what you believe will happen when a) the inevitable %*!& hits the fan and Christians have to live through it, or b) millions of people suddenly disappear from the earth.



Since so many people do believe, how will their lives change when there is no rapture?


i'm confused as to what your position is ?

are you saying there will be or wont be a ' rapture ' ?



ok i think i got it ....your saying what are these people gonna think when they are still here after the rapture and they realize they werent the pre chosen ones ?


[edit on 23-3-2008 by easynow]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:23 PM
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he is saying it is irrelevant what his personal belief is, he wants to know what you would do in BOTH scenarios, if there wasnt a rapture and disaster struck, or if there was a rapture and you were left behind as disaster struck.

his intention is not to state his personal opinion or get into any debates on whether such a thing will happen or not. this is all hypothetical and what-if.

make sense?

[edit on 3/23/2008 by runetang]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:25 PM
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I'm saying, what will happen to Christians and their faith if they have to live through some major US-wide or wold-wide disaster and their belief system tells them they won't have to because they'll be raptured before this happens.

For those who have never had to live through the types of hardships that our ancestors endured, will their faith fail or will they believe that perhaps the end of the world is not really immenent.

There is much dicussion on many Christian sites that the rapture has to take place this year. What will happen to these people if these things happen and the rapture doesn't?



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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Thanks runetang. Btw, I'm a she



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Under the supposition that the Rapture true.

I think both scenarios are likely. People would poof followed by people desperately trying to figure out what happened: "Did ebola mutate and instead of being a hemorrhagic fever is now some sort of super fast flesh-eating-virus?"

Ultimately those left behind would probably be incapable of understanding they were indeed:left behind. Afterall, it is always easier to point at the proverbial sins of others than examine the beasts within, and it is always 'someone elses fault' anymore.


Basically, people would vanish, it would be pandemonium and then martial law (cause lets face it: no politician would be 'worthy' *har har*). After a few years of blaming other countries for some mysterious super weapon-things would go back to McDonalds runs, secretly watching porn in hotel rooms, trying to sue each other for slandering their lawn etc..



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:34 PM
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ok thanks for explaining that further

no matter what happens i will have my faith intact...if thats what you want to know.

just because some disaster occurs doesn't mean i will lose my faith.

if the rapture occurs and i am still here ( i am expecting to be ) then i will still not lose my faith.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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Makes me wonder about UFO's, if there is going to be a rapture, or a rescue, are the aliens taking a census of the Earths animal and human populations to determine who is worthy?
If I saw a UFO (which I did, in 1989) could I assume I was judged if I was worthy, or not, was I scanned, as I was in the same general area and I saw it? Did they know I saw them?
I wonder.

What if they only take our DNA?

If only the politicians, the rich and well to do are the only ones who can afford to build themselves underground bunkers in the wake of a worldwide disaster, it seems to me the wrong bloodlines would be preserved.

If I was an alien being in charge of saving some of the human race, it would not be those people.

Who would it be?

Keep your eye on those missing people reports




posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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I've already discussed this with a friend of mine who is a Christian and who believes we're in the "end times." He has many thousands of dollars worth of recording equipment, musical instruments, video cameras, DVD authoring tools, etc. He has assured me that it's all mine if the rapture occurs. Can't wait!



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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Power is in us to deal with the world of wicked. Leaving would be a coward move. The highest wont have us as cowards to leave. We'll leave once after dealing/battling with the world of wickedness eye to eye. And when we do leave we'll still be here in our material aspect. The wicked one is in our grasp for ever. We'd be the fool to not keep our enemy close. Instead we'll uttermostly be far from the enemy. The enemy will be buried in our waste cast far from us though yet in still as us close. Therefore our enemy will be kept close to "us". The enemy is God/reapers (an alien race). The highest is us VS them in all angles. We show to lead in the match off.

Where will the highest put us altogether left here? In our own seperate ideal everything.
The wicked will be cast into hell fire after our chosen blow by battle.

When every person goes where they are to be put these bodies of flesh will be left behind as though frozen in time because there wont be any life to decompose the dead bodies. Though they could be buried melted by lova or buried by flood and will be exploded when the sun finally explodes. All life will leave though from this planet after the grand battle.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 08:21 PM
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You know what bothers me about this whole rapture thing? that the satanists are knowingly fulfilling a prophecy that leads to their own downfall.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 10:45 PM
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It's been awhile since I studied so correct me if i"m wrong. I believe after the Rapture there will be a 7yr tribulation period after which time Christ will come back for the rest of those who were faithful or endured and repented(kind of a second chance).Then he will reign for a thousand years after which time Satan will be released and there will be the true Holy War,Good vs. Evil

So for me a self studying Christian and realist,if I don't make the first rapture it means one thing. I did something wrong and need to hold steadfast to my faith while I repent.

On the other hand being human by nature I will try to survive and protect my family and self (if family isn't raptured).Don't get me wrong I will still be strapped to the teeth.In preperation for self defense.

Good Question



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 11:35 PM
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That is a nice response. And I agree. We don't know when a rapture will occur. I also know people who think the end of times is near. But I guess we will find out when it happens (if it happens during our lifetime).


And as a response to those who thought WW1 and WW2 were end of times events, obviously that wasn't the case. I guess it is kind of like hold steadfast and true to your beliefs.

Hopefully I go the first time around. Although battling evil would be kind of cool. We will see what God has in store for each of us.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 12:07 AM
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I think the first thing I'd do after the rapture is rejoin the Republican Party. It would probably naturally drift back to being the old party that it used to be without the influence of the religious conservatives who, IMO, draw it too far to the right.

Then I think I'd start buying real estate since there'd be so much of it available for cheap. I'd be a real estate tycoon. And I'd make music with my friend's recording equipment. And I'd enjoy the lighter traffic on Denver's freeways. It's pretty much win-win no matter how you look at it.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 04:45 AM
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It’s an interesting question, and one I’ve thought about before. Many pre-trib believers are already reconsidering their positions due to the events unfolding. If you’re a thinking person who keeps up with world events, it seems that you should be able to recognize your mistake on either side. But then, to paraphrase ltO ‘Blame is better to give than receive’.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 10:27 AM
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If you have ever wondered how people would gloss over the rapture, you have no further than the evidence in this thread.

Look at how many people say, in the event of a rapture "I'm going to get this, I'm going to buy that, I'll be doing this". I looked in those posts, and didn't see a smiley, or laughing gif, or a grin gif. In other words, those posts looked like they were being serious.

This isn't even real life, just the question of if the rapture happens what will you do. The funny thing is that if millions/billions of people suddenly go missing, YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS, AND THAT HELL IS REAL. And what are people saying? I'm gonna make/get/buy/sell more stuff.

Is it any wonder that God will have to basically allow the planet to be almost destroyed before all that will repent, do repent. That is, assuming the rapture to be real.

If the rapture is real (I believe it is), then I won't be here to debate what I would do. If it doesn't happen, or comes post-tribulation, then I have also prepared for that eventuality, as much as one CAN prepare for TEOTWAWKI.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 11:38 AM
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I responded the way I did because this is a purely hypothetical question. I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that there will be no rapture. I'm not in the slightest concerned that there might be Hell. As a former Christian, I've studied this subject for years in a fair amount of depth. This question is no more based in reality than if the OP asked, "If your house doesn't have a chimney, how do you think Santa gets your presents into your house?"



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 12:09 PM
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I believe that is pretty much dead on. There is seven years in between for people to repent, etc.

As for me, I believe in Aliens, but I believe that they are demons manifested into the form of extraterrestrials to distract people, but I won't go into my beliefs. So, in saying that, I believe that Aliens will have no part in the rapture.

Now for the fact that the world dips into some dark, hard times, and there is no rapture, I'm young, but I intend to help defend the ones I love, and depending on the situation, try and make things better for the people around me. If its a war, enlist (if there is no consciption of course), if there is a financial crisis, get a good education (which would be easier said than done in hard times) and get a good paying job, and if its natural disaster, well, I guess just have to wait it out.

But in the case of the world completely falling apart, I will hold fast in my faith and know that my God loves me all the way through, and is watching me and keeping me safe. The bible says that no man knows which day or time the Lord will return, so it could be in a billion years, or it could be in five seconds. I personally prefer if I get to live life a little bit longer so I can do something useful with it, but its up to God.

Oh, and to answer the OP's main question: If there is a rapture, then I guess I'm outta here. Can't say how I would feel in that situation, probably happy.

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posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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Back in the eigthies, Abba Eban, Now pasted away had a show that air on fox channel, that dealt with this subject matter. People are being brain washed to accept the mass disappearance, and go on like nothing happen, while christens would be alert, this is media control.
so listen to what is said. Peace



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 12:22 PM
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I come from a prodominately Christian family,my father was a lay leader with the Methodist church,never once were we ever told anything regarding a rapture,I know I'm old but I'm not that old




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