Originally posted by rcwj75
Originally posted by projectvxn
That's great, just like alcoholism is a disease right? WRONG! Addictions aren't diseases, they're self imposed punishments.
STAR for you...soooo true. Its unreal how many still think its a disease to willingly make a choice to do something that will only destroy you.
Not being able to step away from the computer for awhile is not an illness, its a choice!
I worked for a few months in a Drug and Alcohol counseling office. every day I would come in to work I would hear the counselor speak to these people
as though they were sick..And you know what? Most of them went back to jail for DUIs and other drug offenses. And they used the disease excuse to get
out of jail and back into counseling where they could have their delusions reinforced by the counselor. When I realized what was going on I called the
counselor a host of names that indicated to him that I thought he was a fraud and that he wasn't helping anyone, and I quit.
I don't know where they find these shrinks. But addiction is no mental illness. If that were the case drug addicts and people who drive drunk would
be in mental hospitals and NOT jails. The only disease I see here is one of delusion into thinking you have no control over yourself. AA and NA
perpetuate this on a regular basis..And if you look at their success rate, it is the same as that of people who quit without their help 5%.
So where does that leave the people who peddle this #? Dead in the water that's where. But the media and the justice system puts trust in these
people to actually do their jobs, instead they offer you a way to become even more powerless over your addiction by placing all the responsibility on
God. As a Christian I find that offensive.
Here are the 12 steps:
# We admitted we were powerless over alcohol--that our lives had become unmanageable.
# Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
# Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
# Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
# Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
# Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
# Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
# Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
# Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
# Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
# Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us
and the power to carry that out.
# Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all
Does this sound like self help? Or an excuse to do whatever you want because you have no control anyway? BS!!!!!