US Deaths in Iraq Approach 4,000

US Deaths in Iraq Approach 4,000

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A roadside bomb killed three American soldiers north of Baghdad on Saturday, pushing the U.S. death toll in the five-year conflict to nearly 4,000.
Also Saturday, Iraqi authorities reported that a U.S. airstrike north of the capital killed six members of a U.S.-backed Sunni group - straining relations with America's new allies in the fight against al-Qaida.

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Counting The Dead in Iraq

Will our leaders listen to the report of 4,000 US deaths in Iraq or do they simply not care?

How about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have been killed?

How about the millions of displaced Iraqis?

Nope, no one cares about them because they're not American.

The latest deaths brought to 3,996 the number of U.S. service members and Pentagon civilians who have died since the war began on March 20, 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

The AP estimate is certainly a low number. This does not count people who have died in hospitals outside of Iraq, even though they were wounded there.

Speaking for the Democrats, however, Sen. Robert Menendez of New Jersey called on Bush to "face the reality" in Iraq and "tell us the truth" about the cost of the conflict as America is struggling with a faltering economy and mounting casualty tolls.

At least there's one intelligent person in the Senate calling for some reason.




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It's time for the anti-war (american) activists to come out once again and do the sickening countdown to 4,000, just like they did when it was 3,000, 2,000 and 1,000. You'd swear they were celebrating a countdown to a new year or something.

I wonder how many of these freaks actually get together, throw some money into a pool, and give it to the person closest to the date and time 4,000 arrives? Celebrating American deaths is pathetic.

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What the hell are you talking about?

Who is celebrating American deaths?

Doesn't it disturb you that 4000 Americans have died or do you have no problem with that?

I have a problem with people that politicize troop deaths.

The only option that might have been better, would have been killing 25 million Iraqis with about a hundred nukes and starting over fresh. But I'm sure you would have protested that action also.

4,000 deaths in a 5 year war is a very very low number by comparison.

Viet Nam 58,000 US dead
World War 2 416,000
World War 1 58,000
Civil War 620,000

[edit on 22-3-2008 by RRconservative]

Originally posted by RRconservative
The only option that might have been better, would have been killing 25 million Iraqis with about a hundred nukes and starting over fresh. But I'm sure you would have protested that action also.

Yeah because that's called genocide.

4,000 deaths in a 5 year war is a very very low number by comparison.

I would be pissed off if ONE person died because we invaded Iraq.

The death count is really based on who you are using as a source.

4000 may be the deaths, but there's up to 100,000 wounded. The number ranges from 23,000 to 100,000.

We've only lost 4000 because of our superior technology, but as soon as the oil runs out (or at least the supply is cut because Bush thinks Al Qaeda is attacking the supply lines), no amount of technology is going to save our troops.

The number soars to about ONE MILLION deaths when Iraqi deaths are taken into account.

Do they not matter?

Nevermind, you're ok with genocide. Carry on.

[edit on 3/22/2008 by biggie smalls]

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Iraq coalition casualties

Iraq body count

Casualties in Iraq

U.S. lacks mechanism to accurately track troops wounded in Iraq

How can one not care about people dying?

We're only over there for oil. Not freedom. Not WMDs.

We're fighting a resource war. At what cost will this war be "won?"




[edit on 3/22/2008 by biggie smalls]

This is an old article, but relevant nonetheless:

U.S. deaths in Iraq, war on terror surpass 9/11 toll

So the US number is currently circling around 4000 casualties in Iraq, but again, that number does not mention casualties from soldiers who died outside the regional boundary.

If a soldier is wounded in Iraq and is flown to Germany for treatment, and dies there, it is not counted as a war casualty.

What kind of crap is that?


I find plenty of data about military casualties, but pretty much nowhere reports the civilian casualties.

That is probably a bigger conspiracy than not accurately reporting military casualties.

What does Bush want to hide? The cost of the war both economically and humanity's sacrifices?

He hasn't had to sacrifice anything. Meanwhile, our soldiers are being shot at every day.

McCain calls for 100 more years of occupation, and the democrats haven't done crap to get our people home.

Their 2006 campaign promises included a swift withdrawal from Iraq. Well, it looks like the politicians keep lying to the American public.


100,000 civilian deaths estimated


Iraq casualties - over 800,000 total


What is the real death toll in Iraq?

The Americans learned one lesson from Vietnam: don't count the civilian dead. As a result, no one knows how many Iraqis have been killed in the five years since the invasion. Estimates put the toll at between 100,000 and one million, and now a bitter war of numbers is raging.

Cool Bush, the best liar.

Originally posted by RRconservative


The only option that might have been better, would have been killing 25 million Iraqis with about a hundred nukes and starting over fresh. But I'm sure you would have protested that action also.

Why the hate for a nation that never attacked the US?

I morn the death of our 4000, especially since their death really serves no purpose. This war looks more like Nam with every passing day.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by whaaa]

4000 is a shockingly low number considering how long we have been at war now. Like you said, they are obviously "cooking the books" on the numbers by severely limiting what they actually consider a fatality.

What is more concerning to me is the number of people who are wounded. The people who will have to come back and try to integrate themselves back into society. The PSTD fall out from this war should easily be on par with what we had in Vietnam. Many more people are surviving wounds that would have killed them in previous wars. So there are thousands and thousands of guys returning home who will be suffering for the rest of their lives.

I am curious if the vets of Iraq will get the support that they need or if the government will turn its back on them like they did in Vietnam.


The costs to the Iraqi's is even more astounding when you look at it all. Why did we do this again?

Unfortunately the statistics are far worse than we are told. According to the stats from the Department of Veteran Affairs (May 2007) since 1990 more Gulf Veterans have died than VietNam Veterans. Most deaths were not during combat though.....depleted uranium and vaccines perhaps?

US Dept. of Veterans: 73,846 US troops dead, 1,620,906 disabled
More Gulf War Veterans have died than Vietnam Veterans. The Department of Veterans Affairs, May 2007, Gulf War Veterans Information System reports the following: Total U.S. Military Gulf War Deaths: 73,846 - Deaths amongst Deployed: 17,847 - Deaths amongst Non-Deployed: 55,999 Total "Undiagnosed Illness" (UDX) claims: 14,874 Total number of disability claims filed: 1,620,906 - Disability Claims amongst Deployed: 407,911 - Disability Claims amongst Non-Deployed: 1,212,995 Percentage of combat troops that filed Disability Claims 36% Soldiers, by nature, typically don't complain. In other words, the real impact of those who are disabled from the US invasions in Iraq, Afghanistan and other Nations, is not fully reflected in the official Veterans Affairs numbers.

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Note: not surprisingly, the link to the actual report (pdf) doesn't work anymore but it definitely exists.

It is discussed here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...