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Did the Prophet Muhammed predict Osama Bin Laden ?

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posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 06:40 AM
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The Prophet said, Peace be upon him:
"O Allah, bless our Syria and our Yemen!" They said: "Ya Rasulallah, and our Najd!" He didn't reply. He blessed Syria and Yemen twice more. They asked him to bless Najd twice more but he didn't reply. The third time he said: "There [in Najd] are the earthquakes and the dissensions, and through it will dawn the epoch [or horn] of shaytan."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Najd is the central region of what is now Saudi Arabia.

When asked to bless it the Prophet declined for the following reason:-


"A people that recite the Qur'an will come out of the East, but it will not go past their throats. Every time a generation of them is cut down another one will come until the last one finds itself on the side of the Antichrist."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Furthermore


On the authority of al-`Abbas: "A man will come out of the Wadi Abu Hanifah [in Najd] (whose appearance is) like a bull that lunges against its yoke. There will be much slaughter and killing in his time. They will make the possessions of Muslims lawful for themselves and for trade among themselves. They will make the lives of Muslims lawful for themselves and for boasting among themselves. In that confusion the despised and the lowly will attain positions of power. Their idle desires will keep company with them the way a dog keeps company with its master."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


and


There will be Dajjals and liars among my Community. They will tell you something new, which neither you nor your forefathers have heard. Be on your guard against them and do not let them lead you astray


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This from www.naqshbandi.org...

A website dedicated to the Naqshbandi Dervishes, a mystical Sufi order in
Islam.

The Sufis are those Muslims who seek an intimate and close relationship with God.

They take issue with the Wahhabi sect, a modern fundamentalist sect who are the dominant force in Saudi Arabia.

According to them The Wahhabis do not represent the true face of Islam
but are a perversion of it. Judging by the above quotations,it would appear that this opinion is in accordance with the Prophet's teachings.

As Wahabbi-ism is virtually all that we in the West know of Islam,it appears to me that we are being fed a perverted picture of what Islam really represents.

Fot this reason I have put this post in the Religious Conspiracies section.

Some may reason that we are also being fed a perverted version of what Christianity really is and by the same Christians who are closely allied to the Wahhabis of Saudi.

I would be interested to hear opinions from Muslims, Christians and agnostics alike.




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posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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Sure is interesting, although most dont take OBL seriously, and think he is already dead, but a useful propaganda tool to scare the masses.
I wonder if Jesus made a similar prophecy?



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 08:12 AM
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Thanks for your reply. The quotations could be taken as referring to one actual man or Wahhabi-ism personified. Like you I wonder if OBL is still alive and whether he was mainly a propaganda tool in any event.

It is what he represents which would seem to be the danger.

I don't know if Jesus made any similar prophecies. perhaps someone who knows their Bible inside out could enlighten us.

The Book of Revelations (written by John) is full of apparent prophecies.

To get into the meaning of Revelations would be a whole new thread.
Indeed there are several I have seen on ATS, dedicated to this already.

Also the Old Testament is full of prophecies, perhaps some of them might refer to these things.?

Biblical Scholars- Help needed Please!



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 08:12 AM
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Double post-Only God is Perfect!

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posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 08:32 AM
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Interesting. Not so much about predicting bin laden but predicting that there would be a group in that region who would only speak the law but would not understand islam, because it is only in their throats that they are muslim.



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 08:42 AM
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I haven't found anything more from the Bible yet,but here is more from the Hadith ( the sayings of Muhammed ) on the same subject:-


"Their valley [Najd] will not cease to be a valley of dissensions until
the end of time, and the religion will never recover from their liars until
Judgment Day,"

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"A shaytan will appear in Najd by whose dissension the Arabian island will quake."

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"They are the dogs of the people of Hell."

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"Some people will be standing and calling at the gates of hell; whoever
responds to their call, their will throw him into the Fire. They will be from
our own people [i.e. Arabs] and will speak our language [Arabic].

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"You will see the barefoot ones, the naked, the destitute, the shepherds
and camelherds take pride in building tall structures in abundance."


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"One of the signs of the change of religion is the affectation of eloquence
by the rabble and their betaking to palaces in big cities."

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The last two sound suspiciously like our own times !

There is more in same vein from users.mo-net.com...



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 08:51 AM
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It does say "A man will come out of Wadi Abu Hanifah" this could be taken to mean OBL ,or the founder of Wahhabi-ism, or Wahhabi-ism personified.

But yes I agree it does seem to refer to people who do not practice what they preach.

I tried to find out if OBL was actually born in Wadi Abu Hanifah but without success



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 09:23 AM
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Regarding "You will see the barefoot ones, the naked, the destitute, the shepherds
and camelherds take pride in building tall structures in abundance."

Here is a picture of Dubai



and regarding "One of the signs of the change of religion is the affectation of eloquence
by the rabble and their betaking to palaces in big cities."

Hereis another


Im not trying to knock Dubai in particular ,just to point out that Mohammed's prophecies seem to be coming true



posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 03:16 PM
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To stir things up a bit:


Wahabism Delenda Est.

This isn't hate. It isn't a call to genocide. It isn't a call to convert to another religion. It is, however, a call to extirpate the cancer of Wahabism. Just as the Christian church tamed the Inquisition, so too should the Muslim world tame Wahabism.

Wahabism Delenda Est.

This is from an outspoken American military blog .One can understand where they are coming from.

More at:www.thedonovan.com...

But the rulers of the West have been very friendly with Wahabism for many years. They are currently engaged in a conflict with a faction that grew out of it, and possibly for ulterior motives.

Does the West anyway have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of a different religion?

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posted on Mar, 22 2008 @ 03:43 PM
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The Bible - and Jesus - do predict Mohammed, actually.


John 16:7-14 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you."


Just for a sample



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 07:23 PM
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Thank you for reply.

This is most interesting:


He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine


This could most certainly be taken as referring to Mohammed as the Moslems acknowledge Jesus as a prophet, and various Christian countries converted in part or in whole to Islam,eg.Egypt and Morocco.

On the same subject it is worth noting that the Buddha predicted the coming of Jesus.

Buddha stated that the next Buddha after him would come 566 Million years after Buddha's death.

Very often in religious and esoteric writings where numbers are mentioned the real number meant is either a fraction or multiple of the one mentioned.

The number 566 Million is meaningless in human terms if it refers to years.
We have only been around for between one and one half million years.

So divide by a million and we are left with 566 years. It is generally thought that Buddha died in 564 B.C. !

It makes you wonder who the three wise men from the East were. They were clearly expecting Jesus's arrival. Were they Buddhists I wonder?

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posted on Mar, 25 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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So we have a strange situation here:

Lord Buddha predicted the coming of

The Lord Jesus Christ who predicted the coming of

The Prophet Mohammed (upon whom be Peace) who predicted the coming of

Osama Bin Laden !!??!



posted on Mar, 25 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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Osama Bin Laden is said to have been born in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia.

www.answers.com/topic/osama-bin-laden

Wadi Abu Hanifah is close by Riyadh

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd

So OBL could well be the man to whom the Prophet Mohammed refers.

The more I read on this subject,the more accurate the prophecy seems and the more respect I have (as a non-Muslim ) for the founder of Islam.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bashibozkedi
So we have a strange situation here:

Lord Buddha predicted the coming of

The Lord Jesus Christ who predicted the coming of

The Prophet Mohammed (upon whom be Peace) who predicted the coming of

Osama Bin Laden !!??!


This is perhaps not so strange when you recall that Muslims believe that the Prophet Mohammed is the LAST Prophet before the Day of Judgement.

So whereas previous prophets could predict the next one, there are no more prophets after Mohammed before the Day of Judgement (?read end of the Fourth Creation whwn the Mayan Calendar ends in 2011) so there are no more prophets for him to predict.

Instead he predicts the Day of Judgement itself.

I'm starting to find this ever so slightly scary!

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posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Bashibozkedi
Osama Bin Laden is said to have been born in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia.

www.answers.com/topic/osama-bin-laden

Wadi Abu Hanifah is close by Riyadh

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd

So OBL could well be the man to whom the Prophet Mohammed refers.

The more I read on this subject,the more accurate the prophecy seems and the more respect I have (as a non-Muslim ) for the founder of Islam.


i very much doubt it, even if the neocons try and blame him for "destroying the tables/WTT of money lenders". i think it will be someone not yet noticed.

interestingly, in some indian book it says that "whenever darkness prevails, i will send one to bring them into the light" or something like that.

it is supposed to occur roughly every 500 years. either they're late or its going to get a lot darker.

i'd back the latter.



posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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thank you for bringing this out. i had heard of this sunnah, but i never thought it was B Laden. i assumed it meant the Saudi kings.

i myself am Sufi, and i agree that Wahhabism is an affront to God. if there is one thing Islam is not, its this backwards and sadistic and damn near blasphemous concept of Wahhabism.

Good verse Walking Fox, not many know what it refers to.

Love and Peace



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