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I have a confession .... I have never really liked St. Paul. Something about him just didnt' give me the warm fuzzies. He really didn't get along with the apostles at all and even publically picked fights with Peter (and then boasted of them, and boasted of 'winning'). He seemed rather arrogant to me. I could be wrong .. but ...
Originally posted by pieman
reply to post by idle_rocker
i think the thing that mesqua's getting at is that this seperation from judeic law isn't a teaching from jesus but from paul, and as such we have to question its validity. jesus didn't seem to be against sacrifice as such, so he may have felt those laws were applicable to christians.
for instance the new covenant idea may be at odds with jesus' statement that "not one stroke of the law can be changed" (paraphrased).
now that we're discussing this idea, i'm seeing little conflicting details, hints and nudges that point in this direction scattered throughout the gospels, i may try to get a list together, for discussion in this thread or a new one, up to the op. i'll start it this evening if i have time to cross referance and plow through.
Yahshua or Paul?
...In previous articles published in The Essene Path, I have briefly touched on the topic of how Paul, the self-proclaimed Apostle, violently opposed the original vegetarian Essene Christianity of Jesus, first by killing and imprisoning its leaders, then by infiltrating the movement and leading a schism. The schism led by Paul -- a meat-eating version of Christianity -- replaced the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Paul.
And Jesus continued: "God commanded your forefathers: 'Thou shalt not kill.' But their heart was hardened and they killed. Then Moses desired that at least they should not kill men, and he suffered them to kill beasts. And then the heart of your forefathers was hardened yet more, and they killed men and beasts likewise. But I do say to you: Kill neither men, nor beasts, nor yet the food which goes into your mouth. For if you eat living food, the same will quicken you, but if you kill your food, the dead food will kill you also. For life comes only from life, and from death comes always death. For everything which kills your foods, kills your bodies also. And everything which kills your bodies kills your souls also. And your bodies become what your foods are, even as your spirits, likewise, become what your thoughts are. Therefore, eat not anything which fire, or frost, or water has destroyed. For burned, frozen and rotted foods will burn, freeze and rot your body also.Peace Book 1