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The discovery of the Ebla archive in northern Syria in the 1970s has shown the Biblical writings concerning the Patriarchs to be viable. Documents written on clay tablets from around 2300 B.C. demonstrate that personal and place names in the Patriarchal accounts are genuine. The name “Canaan” was in use in Ebla, a name critics once said was not used at that time and was used incorrectly in the early chapters of the Bible. The word tehom (“the deep”) in Genesis 1:2 was said to be a late word demonstrating the late writing of the creation story. “Tehom” was part of the vocabulary at Ebla, in use some 800 years before Moses. Ancient customs reflected in the stories of the Patriarchs have also been found in clay tablets from Nuzi and Mari.
Originally posted by undo
If you cover it up, then you are airbrushing it, which is the point of the thread. He's an ID'er, that isn't even a religious man *blah blah*
Originally posted by riley
EDIT. Not interested in discussing this point further as I am sick of repeating myself.
such as a version of christianity that has no scruples or intestinal fortitude,
The main issues of 'Atheists rewriting history' does appear to be happening. The O.P. brought up one of the more interpretative rewrites but many other great points were brought into the thread. The historicity of Jesus, the history of Christianity, inflated numbers of Christian atrocities, the Christian history of America, etc. Yes, it does seem to be occurring. At least that is what is going on in our corner of the world and in the Western hemisphere. In the East, it seems to be more of a 'cover up and silence job' than a rewrite. It's irritating.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Ash do you see apostate churches as contributing to this? Preaching a watered down gospel - a prosperity message - feel good message. Where they don't mention sin and unpleasantness like that... are they part of the comspiracy?
What we are seeing today with Christianity is the attempt to include the Bible as well.
Geologists investigate Trojan battlefield
Homer's description of the Trojan battlefield in his classic poem the Iliad is accurate, say scientists.
The subject of the story - the Greeks' 10-year siege of Troy and the wooden horse they used to bring it to an end - may have been a myth, but its geography was not.
he researchers drilled sediments in northwest Turkey to map how the coastline would have looked around the city more than 2,000 years ago when Homer constructed his epic account of the war.
When they compared their findings with his descriptions of the Trojan plain, they found a match.
Gilgamesh tomb believed found. Archaeologists in Iraq believe they may have found the lost tomb of King Gilgamesh - the subject of the oldest "book" in history.
King Gilgamesh, commemorated in stone, kills a lion
Gilgamesh was believed to be two-thirds god, one-third human
The Epic Of Gilgamesh - written by a Middle Eastern scholar 2,500 years before the birth of Christ - commemorated the life of the ruler of the city of Uruk, from which Iraq gets its name.
Now, a German-led expedition has discovered what is thought to be the entire city of Uruk - including, where the Euphrates once flowed, the last resting place of its famous King.
"I don't want to say definitely it was the grave of King Gilgamesh, b
One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."
8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil."
9 "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. 10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."
René Salm’s meticulous, exhaustive, 8-year-long research on the archaeology of the town now called Nazareth shows irrefutably that “Nazareth” was not inhabited at the time Jesus and his family are supposed to have been living there. This puts Jesus of Nazareth in the same league as the Wizard of Oz. Salm’s new AAP book, The Myth of Nazareth, will be released at the conference and is likely to be the biggest challenge to Christianity in centuries.
Archaeological research has revealed a funerary and cult center at Kfar HaHoresh, about two miles (3 km) from Nazareth, dating back roughly 9000 years (to what is known as the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B era). The remains of some 65 individuals were found, buried under huge horizontal headstone structures, some of which consisted of up to 3 tons of locally-produced white plaster. Decorated human skulls uncovered there have led archaeologists to believe that Kfar HaHoresh was a major cult centre in that remote era.
In scholarship on the subject of history, there is very little in terms of antiquity that we can be completely certain on, so their chances aren't as bad as one would think. My problem is more that their arguments for the case they are making are simply juvenile. There are huge gaps of false information, other times they state a case that could just as easily hurt them as much as it may seem to help them (like the etymology of Nazareth). More importantly however, is the lack of respect for the genre of history, and the methodologies employed to determine the veracity of a claim--especially in relation to Salm and Zindler, and how they go about challenging authorities.