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There is a design in randomness/chaos...can make money on stocks!!!

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posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 04:32 AM
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Ever since I was a wee little lad......

...I've had this inkling that there is a design and pattern in chaos and randomness and to this day it eats away at me.

Now I'm no super mathematical genius...but when I see equations/numbers I see patterns, shapes, landscapes, and colors although it's difficult to transcribe what I've always seen back into numbers....

Anyway, when this formula can be figured out you can effectively and successfully predict the stock market and win agianst the odds at incredible rates.

I will say it has to do with that recent surfer guy who has a Theory Of Everything that ties into some sort of geometric multi-demintional modeal and it has to do with the "Road Coloring Problem" which has finally been solved after 38 years. news.yahoo.com...

THe implications are TREMENDOUS and such an equation for predicting these patterns exists...i just can't put my finger on it at the moment but it is there.




posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 04:46 AM
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you should watch the excellent film pi by darren aronofsky.

it's all about a maths genius trying to predict the stock market pattern he believes is there. trouble is, he's not the only one that wants him to find the information and they want it for themselves.

great film!



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 05:01 AM
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I agree there is a hidden secret pattern in stocks and possibly other human reactions. Like a chicken in a pressure cooker, we seem to react en masse to changes in gravitational flunctuations. I've been following the direction of the stock market at www.xyber9.com... and they've been right for the most part as far as the market direction. I've been watching them for a few weeks now. For a couple of weeks they had some of their future trendline information posted for anyone to see without paying a subscription fee but they changed that recently.

I made some nice money and saw the same trends materialize in the stock market. Now I'm hooked. I'm not sure why people react en masse to gravitational flunctuations but we are mostly water. I believe he factors in some economic reports but it's hard to tell exactly how the web site owner determines the patterns he predicts. I'm looking forward to making a lot more money now while most people think he's crazy and blows it off as soon as they hear they are investing based on gravitational flunctuations.

It also really helps to understand trend charting to know when a good time to buy and sell would be.



[edit on 21-3-2008 by orionthehunter]

[edit on 21-3-2008 by orionthehunter]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:44 AM
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Hey Orion,
So I just got finished divulging all the xyber9 info and I gotta say it looks pretty good. I had a hunch previously that since the moon and other gravitational properties affect the tides, and since we are made of somewhere around70-85% water that it would effect us too at profound levels.... this guy is definately on to something.

As far as investing, he's talking about starting with over 100k. I know it can be done on a smaller scale....loooks like its time to invest.

Although my idea I will say is one that you could figure out the design of randomness, chaos, gravitaion, and other factors so much so that you can create mathematical formulas and computer programs on such a scale that it would even predict anamolies (which is what I think science should be studying anyway) to such a high degree that it would to the day, hour, minute, second....then you'd really have the upper hand in the market.

By the way just watched Pi from Darren Aronofsky....WOW!!!!!



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 04:54 AM
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If there is a design then it wouldn't be chaotic.

I would infact be quite happy to say that the Stock markets are perhaps the staple of order in our Capitalist Society, and that in terms of chaotic nature, everything else pales in comparision to the great order that is Capitalism.

The belief that Stock markets are next to impossible to determine is flawed in that the perspective is usually placed on only one company - however if two companies work in tandem it's actually quite easy to play the stock markets.

Even easier if you own a conglomerate company with great variations on stocks.

All you gotta do is increase your chances, and you'll find that the pattern is easier and easier to take advantage of.

p.s; Ultimate Chaos is like playing Russian Roullette, btw.

Except, of course you have about 20 chambers and 4 bullets.

edit; if you're wondering how to make sense of that, you're playing into the trap of Chaos.

You can't make sense of it, no matter how hard you try the closest thing you can get to understanding Complete Chaos is that it is what it is.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by Throbber]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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Im not following the OP's comparison of chaos and mathematical formulas. The concept of mathematics is to bring order, not chaos.

And stock markets are based on mathematical deriviations, human acting and the flow of the world market - None of these variables are derived from chaos, on the contrary. (Well, you could argue with the human part, but you get the idea..)



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 08:59 AM
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Wha I was saying is that there is order n chaos......i.e. it's not exactly chaos and there is an order to everything. So goes randmoness...it really doesn't exist. At least there is a predictable order in chaos that can be mathematically shown and predicted with equations.

I don't necessarily think math brings order to itself at all times because when equating chaos, randomness, or even infinity for that matter...we now tread on ground that is difficult to fathom and still we try to put order to it.

It drove Georg Cantor literally nuts working with infinity. He was put in a mental institution, yet his formulas are some of the most profund work I have had the privelage of glimpsing some understanding of.


sty

posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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You are right, the stock markets are not random . They are accurately engineered step by step in order to make thee rich people even richer.
If you want to study it from the probability point of view, be prepared to trow away your maths skills - they do not apply for the stock markets



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 12:06 PM
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Are you describing technical analysis? TA can be quite useful even if kept to charts. You can use math concepts like Fibonacci retracements and other goodies.


[edit on 3/24/08 by aava]


JSR

posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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if you are truly interested, then should include this man in your research, Benoit Mandelbrot ( en.wikipedia.org... ) he has done great work in this field. he even wrote a book about the markets display of fractal geometric patterns. the book is called "The Misbehavior of Markets". its a dry read...but good.

then look into the study of fractal geometry. ( www.fractalwisdom.com... ). you will never see things the same again. but, be careful, they don't call it chaos for nothing. happy reading.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 07:00 PM
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I am currently a subscriber and have been since March 08. Granted he was right calling the rebound off the march 25th lows, his weekly trend predictors have not proven as prosperous. His last five weekly trend predictions have been incorrect. Unless his trend predictors prove me wrong i will be canceling service end of this month. So far i would not recommend it to anyone. Plus i a have learned they wont post those people nominated for the noble prize until 50 years later which makes me very skeptical. I also am wondering why he is not on the forbes top 100 riches people. Im starting to believe he is just your modern day con artist. I am the only one left out of four other family members left following him.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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I believe everything has a design, including the stock market. No doubt if you could read it you could get rich.

I think many of the "elite" know how to take advantage of this universal design. I could understand why Prez Reagan would have his own personal astrologer, or why other rich and successful people are into the occult. It's not magic, it's just about reading the patterns.



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 12:33 AM
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Everything has a pattern, but to the normal user, it is seen as random. Computers cant generate a random number, they just cant, They need to know what number it is going to be(not always a number, but you get the idea). So, if you can break the barrier of thinking it is random, you can find the pattern easily.



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 12:48 AM
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money == sh!t

There is no difference between money and sh!t. Both are backed by the same thing, electrons and protons.



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 01:03 AM
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true, true.... Gotta love that science.


JSR

posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:28 PM
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sory to hear that Anonymous. I wasn't recomending anyone follow his investment advice. He does have some nice insight into the field though. I personally do not believe anyone can predict the markest.

For what its worth, anone interested in this field would find his book interesting. I do not endorse anybodies methood of investing. Im sorry to hear you've had bad luck.



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