Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Societalgnorance
Stumpy, reading your post proves to me that you are (no offense) a low-level mason privy to NO juicy information. Even the high-level masons aren't privy to all secret information.

Can you enlighten us as to what, in your estimation, is a 'high level' Mason?

A 33rd degree mason is a "high level" mason. I sense a little sarcasm in your question....I could be wrong though.......

Originally posted by Societalgnorance

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Societalgnorance
Stumpy, reading your post proves to me that you are (no offense) a low-level mason privy to NO juicy information. Even the high-level masons aren't privy to all secret information.

Can you enlighten us as to what, in your estimation, is a 'high level' Mason?

A 33rd degree mason is a "high level" mason. I sense a little sarcasm in your question....I could be wrong though.......

Perhaps. I was in the room with about twenty 33rd degree masons just the other night. In fact, we were mourning Scottish Rite Masons who'd died in the last year, and one of the 33's that passed last summer was a bit of a media force in his own right—Marvin Zindler, who when he was a young reporter exposed "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas".

Conspiracy Nut, who are the Seven Sisters that you mentioned in the beginning of the thread?

Thanks for the info

Besides the obvious ones, do you know of any other well known powerful people, from any industry, that are known Freemasons, Skull & Bonesman, etc...?

It definitely helps, thank you.

I'm surprised no one has come up with a list of powerful secret societies, their members, and the important roles they play in government, industry, media, etc. It would definitely be an interesting list....

Originally posted by Societalgnorance
It definitely helps, thank you.

I'm surprised no one has come up with a list of powerful secret societies, their members, and the important roles they play in government, industry, media, etc. It would definitely be an interesting list....

Indeed, but then they wouldn't be very secret, eh?

Look I'm sympathetic to the idea. I mean, I'm a Ron Paul guy. The mainstream media sucks, and if I can find another reason to loathe them... all the better.

CN23 mentioned some heavy names; Rockefeller and Rothschild are the biggest, I suppose. If you're looking for media control, then I would definitely start where it has been suggested in this thread.

I'm doing some research for another topic at the moment, and I am finding some very interesting connections. Not necessarily between media moguls, but between many powerful names and organizations that have been mentioned here.

You'll find that some Masons will dismiss some theories out of hand; others will not. We really are a cross-section of the general population, therefore you will find practically every perspective and mindset (as they apply here) within our ranks. I am one who does NOT dismiss such things without investigation -- however, I have done enough research about and had enough experience with Masonry to know that CN23 and KT (neither are Masons) are correct in their assessments regarding Red Herrings.

That said, there is almost certainly a connection between these media moguls and the "power elite," or whatever you want to call them. There would have to be, and if one looks closely enough (you don't even have to look so hard nowadays) it is plain to see. Hard to prove, but plain to see nonetheless. They are all members of the Bilderberg Group; many are members of the CFR. I don't know as much about the Trilateral Commission but I'd not doubt their membership/involvement.

I mean, someone's got to tell them what to tell us, right? The idiot box reigns supreme in this country, so, what better way to do it?

Do I take it as far as Alex Jones? No. But I do have questions that aren't being answered, nonetheless.

Good topic; let's try to avoid derailing it on the "high-level Masons" nonsense. There are plenty of other threads for that.

Yeah I agree about your last point.

But like I said before, I've done my research, learned about the Rothschilds and Rockefeller's and all of the other illuminati families. The problem is that's where I hit a dead end. I appreciate the help as it only furthers my conquest but there's like a roadblock of info after you realize who the illuminati families are.

Very good point and no offense taken at all.

That's what I love about ATS is that the average person looks at conspiracy boards and the people on them as nutty, but they are in fact nutty for not at least thinking about who runs the world, and the negative effects they have on our lives.

@The Axeman

wow man, incredible post. I mean, it's all like every word you said!

An individual investigation, watching, hearing and reading a lot of stuff... It could take weeks or months and seems like you can't get enough.

Now, I must say that I entirely agree with SocietaIgnorance, because we have the same questions... I think we should not rest the importance and influence of groups such as Freemasons, Illuminati, Skull&Bones, Bohemian Groove - and who knows how many others. The reasons are obvious, they are preety much ruling the world, being allways on top, and I can tell you the facts too. You should just ask yourself about the Bushes, Reagan and many other american expresidents. In Europe we have Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Merkel, Zapatero, Blair...... many of them attendees of Bilderbergs, some of them pro-Zionists (which has many common purposes), and ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THEM telling us THE REAL TRUTH!

For me, thats too much coincidence...

And, many of them are Nobel prizes, philantrops, and great humanitarians... Thats the media job, distracting - one of the main tasks of freemasonry...


thanks, until next reading...

It's been a while since this thread was created, but i wondered if any progress had been made regarding research on the role and agenda of [in particular] Rupert Murdoch within said secret societies.

Not sure if anyone will see this reply, but any update would be appreciated.