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The Real Reason There is no Disclosure about Aliens and UFOs: Theory

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posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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I don't think we can reasonably assume that all space-faring ETs MUST be peaceful.

There's a third possibility: rogue groups of ETs might decide to break away from their own worlds and infiltrate a young, helpless world such as our own in order to live as Gods.


And indeed all the mythology surrounding the Greek/Roman "Gods" seem to describe exactly that.

Also, I believe all the mythology surrounding "Satan"/"Lucifer" actually describes another such infiltration - "Lucifer" being the leader of a rogue group from the Draconis constellation.

Oh and the Elohim and Nephilim, and, and......




posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by CyberTruth


That's a good point GrayFox. I have to agree. What better way for humanity to "Grow Up" than having contact and disclosure that we are not alone in the Universe.

Perhaps we would be a little more self conscious of ourselves on a planetary level and start taking a little more pride in ourselves and clean up our act.

The sooner we all know the "Truth" of our existence and our relationship to those with which we share this experience in the Universe, the sooner we can realize that which we are capable of being.

How can we fully mature as a species if our experience and knowledge has been stunted and misguided with half truths, deception, and ignorance???



Because it might be a challenge-game. What would we learn or gain, how would we grow without a little bit of challenge?

It would cripple us to learn that we cant grow up without mommy/daddy-extraterrestrial.

They want us to grow up on our own, without crutches.

You might have a point with the establilshment wanting to put brakes on our development so that they can keep us enslaved and out-of-contact with the universe...

but this can also be viewed as a challenging game we have to win rather than a conspiracy in which we cry "poor me, poor me".

"Poor me" is not going to get us out of the system.

(im glad you opened this thread though because it raises more interesting questions than "base 1" questions such as "Do ETs exist?")


[edit on 21-3-2008 by Skyfloating]


You raise some incredibly valid points- yet I disagree with your mommy/daddy theory and people not being able to handle it and the poor me- poor me part.

I personally believe that all kinds of infiltration and mis-information from various agendas have converged and created so much confusion that even the powers that be are blindly blinking trying to figure it all out and what it means. I really thinks its spun this far out of control.

I also believe a highly developed and a superior enlightened being(s) is going to intervene in a very big way because of the level of deception and corruption is in direct conflict with universal truth- which effects the entire universe in ways which we cannot yet understand. I firmly believe that we are causing universal pain (either intentionally, unintentionally or whatever) and a responsible being will show up to remedy the situation. Annihilation of our species will not be the outcome- I believe it will be a revelation of what is true and is of the greatest benefit to all life and matter in the universe. This will not occur out of any sort of pity.

While the original theory in this thread is fascinating as a sci-fi premise, it certainly would answer some pretty impossible questions!

I strongly believe this New World Order is evil and is the final solution for ultimate power and control by a relatively small group who seek power for powers sake and an insatiable lust for control and domination in every aspect they can get their greedy little fingers on and screw the rest of us with an opposing view. This could very well turn out to be man's greatest flaw- but I doubt it. Men just are not smart enough on our own!

So the implication of an evil and technologically advanced species intervening is much more likely than not. Given this- an intervention is also more than likely.

The fact remains that we are at the pivot point of complete deception, corruption and dishonesty which we can reach. The only possibility is truth, love and peace because we cannot go any further in our current direction- except cruelty and most of that will be a gross rehash of the same crap different methods.

Be this as it may- we are officially the dominant species of this planet and are responsible for what occurs here both good and bad. Now should powerful people be in league with evil extraterrestrials- these horrible people will pay very dearly which would explain why they are grabbing at what they can get their hands on while they can!

The truth is we are living in the most interesting and incredible times this earth has ever experienced as we are at the end of an era and an intervention for the sake of the entire universe is, in my opinion, the only event left.

I am very excited by it and appalled at the same time- which is, in an of itself; exhilarating!

Great thread!



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by dk3000

I personally believe that all kinds of infiltration and mis-information from various agendas have converged and created so much confusion that even the powers that be are blindly blinking trying to figure it all out and what it means. I really thinks its spun this far out of control.



I like this part. Those who are supposed to be in charge not even knowing whats what anymore. Could very well be. Very interesting statement you made there.




I also believe a highly developed and a superior enlightened being(s) is going to intervene in a very big way because of the level of deception and corruption is in direct conflict with universal truth- which effects the entire universe in ways which we cannot yet understand. I firmly believe that we are causing universal pain (either intentionally, unintentionally or whatever) and a responsible being will show up to remedy the situation. Annihilation of our species will not be the outcome- I believe it will be a revelation of what is true and is of the greatest benefit to all life and matter in the universe. This will not occur out of any sort of pity.


Unless the chaos is intentional as part of a "training-planet" if you know what I mean. Then again, maybe the game has gotten out of control and intervention is near. BUT: Im not as pessimistic as you or most others here. When I look at the universe I see a lot of harmonious order and beauty and hardly any chaos.



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 01:19 PM
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you spoke about the ant hill,

to communicate with the ants would not be enough to just stand over the hill,

you would have to become an ant to be able to converse with them would you not?



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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Your thinking like a human, no offense.

Human beings think of things like rogue groups of aliens or evil aliens because we believe that fundamentally all species have the potential for greed.

Greed of course comes from the pursuit of money. As humans, we wrongly assume that everyone uses money. We simply can not fathom a world without money.

Aliens wont use money. They wont even have a word for it. If they had money, they would have war. And war with their kind of technology would equal the end of their civilization.

No civilization = nobody left to explore the stars.

Nope, sorry to disagree but its more likely that any race capable of travelling the stars would be peaceful. Otherwise they would have blown themselves up.

SETI believes the same thing by the way, along with several other groups. A study was done by a group of scientists, philosophers, and others working for SETI. The question was asked if SETI got a signal, should they respond. Naturally the question was raised about alien intentions. Thus the study was undertaken.

The results of SETI study mirror my belief. Aliens capable of travelling here are peaceful. Therefore SETI will answer any signal they receive.

Humans think others are greedy because we are. Humans think others will use money because we do. Humans think that there must be water on a planet for there to be life simply because we require water. Humans are very self-centered in the way they think.

All this nonsense of aliens working in secret with the govt to experiment on us is ridiculous. If an alien race capable of technology to travel the stars wanted us, they would have no need to hide anything or work with the govt.

Look at the advances we have made in the past 100 years. Now imagine another civilization's technology that has had another 2 million years to advance. How about a billion years....They would have advancements virtually beyond our comprehension. They could eliminate this planet as easily as pushing a button.

Like I said, we're ants



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by meremortal
reply to post by admriker444
 


you spoke about the ant hill,

to communicate with the ants would not be enough to just stand over the hill,

you would have to become an ant to be able to converse with them would you not?


not really.

we can communicate with lesser intelligent animals without being one. Dogs understand basic commands. Apes can be taught sign language. Dolphins might even be sentient beings like us (they actually recognize their own image in a mirror).

I doubt aliens use our languages to communicate with us. Just as we dont use barking to communicate with dogs.



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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That makes a lot of sense to me.
But are you just agreeing with Alex Collier?



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by admriker444
Your thinking like a human, no offense.

Human beings think of things like rogue groups of aliens or evil aliens because we believe that fundamentally all species have the potential for greed.

Greed of course comes from the pursuit of money. As humans, we wrongly assume that everyone uses money. We simply can not fathom a world without money.

Aliens wont use money. They wont even have a word for it. If they had money, they would have war. And war with their kind of technology would equal the end of their civilization.


It's not about money - money is merely a means to an end.

It's about power, control.

Can you seriously say for 100% sure that there are NO ETs out there in the galaxy anywhere who have the powerlust?

Can you say for 100% sure that there are NO ETs out there who want to be worshipped and adored as a "God", gain power and control over thousands, millions, billions of people?

I happen to agree with you in that I think MOST of the ETs out there have evolved beyond that sort of thing, beyond the desire for power, war, conquest, imperialism etc.

But that's not to say that there aren't SOME rogue groups who have "Turned To The Dark Side" so to speak
, and decided to infiltrate or otherwise take over less powerful worlds.

And, again, the mythology surrounding Satan/Lucifer seems to describe that exact thing happening. A "serpent" (read: people from the Draconis constellation) infiltrating the "Garden of Eden", our paradise of a world, and manipulating us into following their rules. Telling us to quit walking around naked and having a good time and get to work, slaves!



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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Watched a DVD last night called "revolver". Without boring you with the strange nature of the plot line, one thing stuck out to me as to the game whomever is playing on humanity inasfar as disclosure goes; to-wit,
a character has in his mind all of the pieces of the puzzle and cannot put them together, his lessons (I don't want to ruin the movie, just go with me) tell him that if you want to be smarter, you must learn by playing a smarter opponent.
Could this be the game the visitors are playing with us?



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by dk3000

I personally believe that all kinds of infiltration and mis-information from various agendas have converged and created so much confusion that even the powers that be are blindly blinking trying to figure it all out and what it means. I really thinks its spun this far out of control.



I like this part. Those who are supposed to be in charge not even knowing whats what anymore. Could very well be. Very interesting statement you made there.




I also believe a highly developed and a superior enlightened being(s) is going to intervene in a very big way because of the level of deception and corruption is in direct conflict with universal truth- which effects the entire universe in ways which we cannot yet understand. I firmly believe that we are causing universal pain (either intentionally, unintentionally or whatever) and a responsible being will show up to remedy the situation. Annihilation of our species will not be the outcome- I believe it will be a revelation of what is true and is of the greatest benefit to all life and matter in the universe. This will not occur out of any sort of pity.


Unless the chaos is intentional as part of a "training-planet" if you know what I mean. Then again, maybe the game has gotten out of control and intervention is near. BUT: Im not as pessimistic as you or most others here. When I look at the universe I see a lot of harmonious order and beauty and hardly any chaos.




Thank you for reading my post. Some days I spend way to much time on here- and it is not compulsory- its something I feel I have to do because so many people are terribly confused, lost and sincerely looking for something to help them out of the dark and see what's going on around them and make some kind of sense of it all.

I personally believe- and sometimes my belief gets aggravated by all the deception that I put my foot in my mouth by lumping all world leaders and government officials into the evil category. I think many are unwittingly assisting a smaller evil cabal often because they are just as confused or over-whelmed themselves by the sheer massive horror of it.

So yes, I think it's out of control and intervention is necessary because the lunatics have taken over the asylum in the sense we can no longer distinguish the "doctors" from the "patients" anymore.

I wholeheartedly agree with the beauty you see and I see it as well- less gracefully as you, but that's coming.

I venture to describe "intervention" in easier terms than my actual belief. The intervention will be that of pure beauty which hopefully will show the blind as to what we are capable of, but also what we are all designed to be. Also, there are enormous consequences which must be paid by violators regardless of intent.

In other words, if you step up to the plate, and everyone is welcome and encouraged to step up- you had better know how to play ball and fully understand the rules of engagement because you are playing with other peoples lives and not just your own.


I disagree, humbly so in that this planet is a "training planet" because nothing is being learned and constant fighting, wars and incredible examples of living opposite are not being understood by people more than capable of such lessons- but are doing the opposite.

Sorry, but I would close the school down- fire all of the instructors- build a new institution and do better dudiligence when hiring new professors.

People are simply too smart, beautiful, compassionate and caring by nature- just one look at a baby explains this better than I can. There is no such thing as an evil baby- at least I have never come across one.



posted on Mar, 25 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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I heard that the governments, or NWO as some would like to put it. Wants total control and will create one world government. Okay. But who's are next enemy? Governments have always had enemies, each other! But when there all under the same rule. What happens then? They aim towards the sky. Telling us that the enemy is ET. Which ET? I don't know maybe the good ones or bad ones.

But either way, we will all learn soon enough. Won't we?



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