Evidence Of Ancient Life On Mars?

reply to post by ArMaP

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I've never seen a rock more rock than Yogi if you ask me, but perhaps i'm missing something.
ArMaP, thanks for providing the link to that browsing system of MOC images; it seems that some image are missing, but i'm not sure. I was looking for a specific MOC image but i'm not convinced about the coordinates;
for instance, since the system does not use the negative coordinates, a 33°W should be read as -327°, but even doing so i can't retrieve a specific image (pleae correct me if i'm wrong). But in the meantime, the images of the surroundings are the right ones, so perhaps i'm missing something: is it possible that it's based on an incomplete database?

reply to post by mikesingh

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www.thelivingmoon.com...


Yes, your wrench does look a bit like a twisted vice-grips. Or maybe it's the young of the turtle like creature whose skull is lying directly to the right, seems like the rocks form a curved spine as you move toward the top of the photo. Aren't our minds programmed to pick out patterns though?
Also, the photos don't really give any idea of scale, are we looking at pebbles or mountains?.

Is it not the case that our planet with its molten core produces an electromagnetic field which protects our atmosphere from solar radiaition. I know there is evidence of ancient vulcanism on Mars and hence a past molten core, but do we know how much if any protection this afforded Mars in the past? When did Mars' electromagnetic field die?. Can larger life forms evolve without such a screen? I don't think it is beyond the bounds of possibility or even probability that microbial life exists of Mars, perhaps even extremophiles manage to scrape an existence on Venus, but a larger ecosystem?
Let's say it did, I don't think there would be any reason to assume that these creatures wouldn't follow the basic bodily forms we find on Earth. A mouth is a mouth, an eye an eye, given that totally different creatures have evovled on Earth to fill identical ecological niches, look at Austrailia's fauna



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feoil, thanks for the link. That's the image I posted on thelivingmoon!!

Cheers!



Yep! That's from the one he posted.

Heck! I know that isn't a spider! But it does look like one - a Martian spidey with two heads!!

Ok first thing I will bring up is the dust storms on mars. The second thing is the fact that archiologists rarely find evidence of primitive advanced life on the surface of our planet why would mars be any different. If there is fossiles on mars odds are they would be 3 to 4 feet underground buried under the constant barrage of dust storms. Not laying in plain site for a sattelite or rover to take pics of, these are just rocks. Until we set foot on mars and start digging by hand we will never know what is really on that planet, anything else is pure speculation.

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reply to post by mikesingh

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sorry mike, i actually wanted to show that photo again but only the link came up

reply to post by Starwatcher

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Finding fossils on the surface is not rare, some 10km from where I live it was common to see walls along the road made with rocks with fossils, almost half the rocks had them.

And the sandstorms have two effects; they put sand on one place but they remove it from another, there are many areas on Mars where we can see that there is little or no sand.

I have some pictures of Mars I would like to present as well.

apod.nasa.gov...

Clearly a mural in the clouds that shows Martians in space suits partaking in combat exercise with giant spider creatures.

www.hypatia-lovers.com...

Here is clear evidence the Mars civilization knows about basic human anatomy.

Now that I'm done making baseless observations, I would like to point out that the probability of those pictures being anything other than rocks is fairly low. This theory holds very little water when the simple statement "Those are rocks," can debunk your whole theory.

Not to mention if NASA did think that those were anything other than differently shaped rocks you wouldn't be seeing them.

Is it just me or does that pic of the "skull" in the third frame look EXACTLY like the famous starchild skull? Interesting find as usual, always fun to speculate S+F

reply to Nohup
post by Nohup

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what about all the people burried that where six feet down??or old civilisation alredy burried ??

You think a disaster or cataclisam could bring some of them to the surface??

Or anything from past civilisations??

Do you believe that any grave here on earth or any unfound old civilisation couldnt be brought during a nike war or astroid im pact ??

Why im sure somthing like that is very plausable wouldnt u agree??

we are just saying anything is pos

And wouldnt you agree ? that the very existence of us is an example that anything is pos???

[edit on 24-3-2008 by plasmacutter]

Hi Grizzly, is this what you mean?


The star child skeleton
Courtesy: Darkstar1


The object on Mars

Yes! The similarities are striking! But then the 'Starchild' skull could be nothing but a deformed human skull and that object on Mars just a rock!!

But it's best to have an open mind until there's proof one way or the other!

Cheers!

reply to mikesingh
post by mikesingh

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LOL im wierd i guess

that bottom pic i know its a rock

but imagine with me here

it looks like what i would think a preditor (the movie creature)

skull would look like


or to me it looks like somene lower jaw got blown off heheh (maybe the poor sap couldnt take it anymore and rested his chin on a shot gun LOL JK)

reply to post by mikesingh

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Yep that's the one I'm talkin about. Seems to have a lot of similarities in my opinion, it would be one helluva coincidence, especially since I'm fairly sure I heard that they had new evidence suggesting that the starchild skull couldn't have been the result of the disease the skeptics used to debunk it. I could and most probably am wrong, but I was pretty sure I heard something along those lines not too long ago.

Cool pictures Mike! Are they really from Mars whose is to say now days. They very well could be and then again maybe not, but rather Earthbound pictures passed off as Martian.

But in reply to some of the other stuff commented on. We should not be fast to dismiss anything. Yes, while proof is hard, to prove them not the real deal would be just as hard possibly.

As for sand storms and such. We must not assume that Mars has been the way it is all along. Some have said, that Mars once was the sister to Earth and maybe even older. Again, can we trust what we are told...I sure do not know.

I find it interesting that often comments are made about Mars and other planets and moons as if we know what we are talking about as if we have been there or that we have some type of authority.

Who can say that civilization did not once live on Mars and that it may not have looked like us or did look like us? Who is not to say that some devastating even took place and wiped out the climate and left Mars barren and hostile. For that matter, how many of you can say for sure that our own planet was not at times in the past of its very own history supporting of life beyond the means of ourselves in these times?

So, cudo's to Mike for collecting these photos in a singular presentation. And if asked if they looked real or not. For it is up to the rest of us to decide for ourselves. But let's be careful how we look at them, cause I do not think that any of us are authority, unless you can prove the truth and history behind each one and where they come from, Mars or where.

great images mikesingh!!

i found them to be very thought provoking.

unfortunately all we have for now are just pictures, so while the objects could be skeletal remains, manufactured items and monuments, we will never know. until these things are physically examined and cataloged and have the results open to everyone, it remains just speculation.

personally i do hope they are real artifacts and not just light reflecting off stones. the ramifications of intelligent life so close to earth would really force everyone to rethink our place in the grand scheme of things.

i also do believe that perhaps we have some sort of connection with mars, perhaps earth was colonized. having read other forums, i have come across many who also do believe this.

until we have people and/or robots actually doing archaeologic surveys on mars surface, we can only dream and imagine what is really there.

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Do you think there is a hidden reason why they are cutting the program?

reply to post by Raynemyst

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It's possible, but the fact that they are spending a lot of money on two rovers that are getting less useful than they were (they travel less each time because of the lack of power from the dirty solar panels to recharge the batteries) at a time where a new is about to start (on Mars, it has already started) makes me think that it is possible that they don't have any hidden reason for it.

But it would be a shame loosing those great images.

Lets hope Phoenix gives us good results.

I still think this look's like some kind of Jawbone.


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Interesting image earth2! Could you provide the original NASA image from where this was taken? Thanx.

That's the trick. Even buried and turned up in the dirt or whatever, artifacts are generally associated with an organized site of some kind, not just scattered around randomly.



Is it possible that leprechauns rode pink unicorns around the Martian hills, and they stopped to eat chocolate kisses that grew on the talking bushes there? I mean, if anything is possible...

reply to post by mikesingh

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Sure, sorry bout that. Sol 1144-Spirit pic


To me it looks like plenty of bones in this pic.