Evidence Of Ancient Life On Mars?, page 10
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reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 06:16 AM by ArMaP
reply to post by vze2xjjk



It looks more like a rock than a cave.

If it was a cave entrance, and considering that the light comes from the right, the right side should be dark and the left side should be bright.

As it is, it has the right side bright and the left side dark, like all rocks on the image, so I think it's just another rock (or other object), but not a cave.


reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 10:23 AM by vze2xjjk
reply to post by ArMaP

3D isn't the easiest to see,but I did nothing but enlarge this set from the Spirit Panoramas page.I did no enhancement. I'll try enhancements later. This is strictly enlargement.
The very lucky angle of this cave opening shot will be illustrated later. A more direct angle may have been achieved at an attempted escarpment climb where the tracks show too steep and high for the Spirit rover. The rover could have tipped over had it not stopped climbing in time.That's my worst nightmare,an overturned helpless rover. That's why I drew it with a low and central center of gravity in 1987. The second 2 pics above are NEGATIVE IMAGES,so I seem to be the only one presenting NEGATIVE IMAGES and don't want to scare anyone from them.Nasa masking is usually NOT done on NEGATIVE images,so they are somewhat more reliable and representative.Nasa just doesn't bother the NEGATIVE images,because no-one cares about them. No-one.



reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 11:22 AM by ArMaP
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I see you didn't talked about the direction of the light that I talked about in my post, don't you see that there is a brighter are on the right of the "cave", making it look like any other boulder? I don't see why you call it a cave.

And this is not just on that photo, in all photos that I have found that I think show that area, in none of those photos it looks like a cave.













reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 12:18 PM by ArMaP
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I will ask it again, don't you see that the "cave" is brighter on the side of the Sun, like the boulders?

A cave should be darker on the side from which the light is coming.

Also, did you saw the other photos I posted as "External Image"?

And don't you understand that a negative image has exactly the same data as a positive, only the interpretation from our brains see it different.


reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 01:07 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by vze2xjjk



I see you keep on ignoring my posts, maybe I am on your "Ignore list".

That's OK, you can post all you want and return to your thread flooding habits.



reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 01:18 PM by vze2xjjk
reply to post by ArMaP


Yes I see your point about the large rock looking like a Cave opening ,but not sure yet. I like the Face pic though.Fossil Head.Spirit rover.


reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 01:36 PM by vze2xjjk
reply to post by ArMaP

Ignore doesn't exist for me,so I find more.
The live ones are hard to see in the second pic.


reply posted on 1-3-2009 @ 02:23 PM by kiwifoot
reply to post by mikesingh



Great pic mate..I believe that all of them could possibly be relics of an alien past on Mars..I say possibly because they all could also be nothing...EXCEPT the "ammo box".

I'm sure I read somewhere that mother nature does not work in right angles....90 degrees is a man made phenomena...nature works in circles and spheres...so to see an object with more than one 90 degree angle to me is definitve proof that there was something happening on Mars that we are not aware of!

Good work!

[edit on 1-3-2009 by kiwifoot]


reply posted on 14-3-2009 @ 08:49 PM by logicbomb
1h.) Spamming: You will not post identical content, or snippets of identical content, to multiple threads in the discussion forums.


[edit on 15-3-2009 by 12m8keall2c]



reply posted on 19-4-2009 @ 02:49 AM by Phage
reply to post by mikesingh


I don't see any geometric shapes in those two images. Perhaps if you could provide the ID's we could get a better idea of what you're talking about (scale for example). But lacking that information, those look like examples of wind abraded vesicular basalt. Very common in the Columbia Hills region.





www.lpi.usra.edu...


reply posted on 20-4-2009 @ 08:11 AM by mikesingh
reply to post by Phage


The original refs/links are in the opening post. Do you suggest that the geological processes on Mars are similar to those on Earth? That makes it more interesting, though I doubt this is so. We therefore cannot apply the same templates.

Those images shown in the previous post are approx the size of a deer's head and rib cage.

And here's something to keep you in good humor (From the same Rover images. I've colored it in for a better look-see!).....





Cheers!

[edit on 20-4-2009 by mikesingh]


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 01:50 AM by amazing
Nice thread and "amazing" pics! Thanks Mike for posting here together.

I also was amazed by the ESA images. European Space Agency I suppose? Are they at odds with NASA at all?

My questions are (and not directed at Mike entirely).

1. Given that these shapes and rocks and anomalies are so amazingly different then anything we have on earth--why doesn't NASA spend some time trying to get closer pictures of them to not only prove/disprove some of the theories floating around but to get a better understanding of the over all geology of Mars and some of the processes there such as erosion to name just one? (Hows that for a run on sentence? lol!

2. There seems to be evidence of single cell organisms on Mars or at least the possibility for them to exist either now or in the past---what are the probabilites or statistics that said organisms might have "evolved" into sentient beings like us? And why is that such a hard concept to swallow? Why is that not even a consideration to skeptics?

3. Some of these pictures defy description and although I feel compelled to believe that most of them are just rocks and shadows and dust--some of them just seem to be too unique? too artificial? I think some good geological expertise is needed here to profer those arguements and expand on the this is just a rock reply. But why and how was it shaped like that?

4. Most pics I've seen on Mars here are from NASA are there any other great ESA or Russian mission pics that are also amazing?

Cheers!
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