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Originally posted by malcr
Given that China imposes restrictions on what is available to Chinese citizens on the internet how come this guy can post here?
Originally posted by sy.gunson
In the west this is called sensationalist journalism or tabloid journalism
Originally posted by sy.gunson
Nobody had their eyes plucked out.
The Tibetan serfs were something more than superstitious victims, blind to their own oppression. As we have seen, some ran away; others openly resisted, sometimes suffering dire consequences. In feudal Tibet, torture and mutilation--including eye gouging, the pulling out of tongues, hamstringing, and amputation--were favored punishments inflicted upon thieves, and runaway or resistant serfs. Journeying through Tibet in the 1960s, Stuart and Roma Gelder interviewed a former serf, Tsereh Wang Tuei, who had stolen two sheep belonging to a monastery. For this he had both his eyes gouged out and his hand mutilated beyond use. He explains that he no longer is a Buddhist: “When a holy lama told them to blind me I thought there was no good in religion
Originally posted by silencee
people, crazyboy0 is saying truth.. do some research..
Originally posted by Phil J. Fry
reply to post by chinawhite
But there would be problem, when a chinese based poster would post anything against the official party line or starts to post critical information about china, wouldn't it ?
I mean, come on, with your mileage on ATS, you will have noticed, that U.S. citizens post a lot of government critical information here, but somehow even the slightest criticism on the chinese government is missing from chinese members. This could lead to conclude, that china is the perfect paradise for everyone, or that someone posted said info would be somehow in danger.
Third conclusion could be, that the chinese are so brainwashed, that they indeed believe anything, their media tells them.
Originally posted by IchiNiSan
With a "freeing our mind, seeking truth from facts, be united and look ahead."-philosophy he dstarted of the almost 30 years of succesful reforms.
[edit on 20/3/08 by IchiNiSan]
Originally posted by HellHound63S
No one thinks for themselves around here.
No one is listening to anyone, your all just useing this situation to advance your own personal agendas, and turnabout is fair play.
You western communists have never really lived under true communisim
You are perfectly "FREE" to live in a local commune, with others who share you idealistic views, but instead you seek to subvert that very freedom, and advocate turning your governments communist, ending freedom in favor of entitlement programs.
You western "socialists" supporting the chinese propaganda, are actualy the most pitifull. Its been sold to you by communists in disguise as intellectuals. You couldn't really understand marxisim and claim to be democratic in anyway. True compasion for the poor is not welfair but freedom. How can you actualy think communism is better than poverty? Maybe if you'd tried both you'd know diffrent.
And last but not least, you democratic westerners here supporting the dalai lama, you don't know the man either, books tell you nothing about his actual conduct, unless you know the man on a personal level, your words are just as empty.
Make no mistake communism/socialism is simpley an athiest religion,
The truth will set you free. Look what the truth could have done for those mammas jumping from cliffs in WW2. Unless you know this dalai lama personaly, you can't know the truth about him, good or bad. Please, on both sides- Don't go jumping from cliffs with your children in hand based on 2nd hand information.
The only real freedom is choice, lets try to start making better choices for our selves and stop trying to make them for everyone else.
Originally posted by lee anoma
I couldn't have said it better (or apparently shorter) but this is the facts people. This is why I feel for the people of Tibet and those arguing for who should have control over them. Going by history I don't think the lamas will do anything good for the people other than have them be servants again but also the boot of China is an oppressive one despite the advantages they have brought to Tibet. More advantages than the Lama serfdom.
Either way the people of Tibet are going to be screwed.
Pay attention and wake up.