It occurred to me that it may be that the solar system is heating up because we are approaching the magnetic "equilibrium" in the solar system...

I mean, do we know what effects that will have on the bodies that pass through? Have we looked at past strata to see if there's any clue?

It occurred to me that the Earth is heating up 'cos we are spewing crap into the air and cutting down all the trees.

I mean, do we know what effects that will have on the bodies that pass through life? Have we looked at pasta strata to see if there's any clue? Are some people not seeing the obvious? See my sig.

[edit on 18-3-2008 by rizla]

Since humanity is disinclined to do anything other than ravage the earth. It does not matter why the earth is warming. It only matters that it is warming.

If our leaders were to decide that the earth was warming because of us. Then they can only be expected to react the only sane and predictable way possible. Kill the rest of us off.

Let us pray that they are as stupid as we believe they are, and are not as disdaneful of the rest of us as we know they are.

Originally posted by rizla
It occurred to me that the Earth is heating up 'cos we are spewing crap into the air and cutting down all the trees.

I mean, do we know what effects that will have on the bodies that pass through life? Have we looked at pasta strata to see if there's any clue? Are some people not seeing the obvious? See my sig.

[edit on 18-3-2008 by rizla]

Oh, now don't get me wrong. I didn't mean to imply that we are guiltless, and in fact, if the solar system is experiencing a heat-up... Well, then. We're doubly screwed.

Thing is, a lot of the info given about the solar system heating up was out of NASA...and I have enough evidence to believe it is wise to at least give their stuff a grain or two of salt.

I'm unsure whether the info I was reading about there regarding the solar system heating up overall came from a reliable source. NASA, suspect, but what of the other few? Well, if that is true, that the solar system overall is heating up, then I was just wondering if it might be related to the position of the solar system relative to the "equilibrium."

Originally posted by Cyberbian
Since humanity is disinclined to do anything other than ravage the earth. It does not matter why the earth is warming. It only matters that it is warming.

If our leaders were to decide that the earth was warming because of us. Then they can only be expected to react the only sane and predictable way possible. Kill the rest of us off.

Let us pray that they are as stupid as we believe they are, and are not as disdaneful of the rest of us as we know they are.

It's not humanity. Poll the average individual and you will find that they are doing what they can do on a daily basis to help the environment. Thing is, if we stop what we are doing on a daily basis, we would starve eventually, and what we are doing is dependent on releasing carbon, directly or indirectly, about 80% of the time.

From the car you drove in to work, to the corn-saturated diet that you eat (which is highly dependent on burning carbon in its growth, transport and processing phases), to the carbon that was burned to construct your desk at work - and at home, if you have one, to the carbon that is burning to light up your screen....

If we stopped dead (as it were) where we are and refused to burn any more carbon, we would accomplish exactly what they want of us. We would die off.

So... We are entrained as a society. And the Big Petro-Oil guys get rich.

But I will tell you what, when I heard that free energy was available, I did some experimentation with some of Wilhelm Reich's work and I'm convinced that there is enough evidence to at least give it the benefit of the doubt. I'm willing to keep trying to get a workable thing going as I am blessed with resources. Because if we can draw the Dark Energy into use, we will not have to release carbon.

So besides the fact that with free energy and the point at which our technological development stand mean that we could create an Elite standard of living for every soul that cared to partake, it is also vital for the health of our planet.

So any of you motivated to see that future, I recommend you read and experiment with what you find about Wilhelm Reich, Nikola Tesla, Royal Rife, Viktor Scauberger. Give it the benefit of the doubt, because if we get it working...it WILL be worth it.

I have a problem with all this.

I can remember when scientists were claiming the world was cooling and the threat of an ice age coming. This was just after the Earth's getting hotter and drier from the droughts of the 50's scare. Now it's global warming, again, with doubts within the science community finally being shown about that.

The age old argument really does still apply. If mankind changes the climate, why did the earth have so radical changes in the past before mankind had the capability to do so. CO2 levels have been tremendously higher than they are now, average temps have been hotter and colder; all without man's help.

The real reason for all this debate is nothing but funding from governmental groups and agencies around the world. Science floats on funding, funding derives from what is popular and the polls show. Private industry spends money on research and development for information about their industry or market. This is a narrow view. The government just shovels money at colleges and universities for whatever they want. This is where the bulk of the climate change information comes from.

As for historical satellite information, this has happened within my lifetime. Logic dictates that I am a source of historical knowledge also.

Originally posted by hinky
The age old argument really does still apply. If mankind changes the climate, why did the earth have so radical changes in the past before mankind had the capability to do so. CO2 levels have been tremendously higher than they are now, average temps have been hotter and colder; all without man's help.

Well... According to some, the CO2 levels haven't been this high for 650,000 years... Who to believe, who to believe...?

Well... According to some, the CO2 levels haven't been this high for 650,000 years... Who to believe, who to believe...?

I believe that claim. The problem is, they were that high 650,000 years ago (as I deduce from that statement) and much higher at other, earlier periods. Yet we don't find fossils of roasted dinos, or, for that matter, any indication that the biosphere was harmed in any way.