This racial hate (has) to stop now.

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posted on Dec, 21 2002 @ 02:02 PM
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For illmatic and everyone out there who sees color as important,
it has to stop.

Illmatic, you talk about how the illuminati knows all the secrets and so forth?

Did you not know that they have been working on the (race) waar for some
time now??

This race war consist of KKK, burning churches, remarks in (politics), false religions,
ect...

They have wanted a race war and have tried to have this happen for a while now.


Christ even predicted that there would be race rise up against race and nation against
nation.

Now let me give you some passages since you are a bible man.

Acts 17-24

"" God who made the world, and (all) things therein; he, being lord
of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands ""

"" And he hath made (one), (all) mandkind, to dwell upon the
(whole) face of the earth, determining appointed times, and the limits
of their habitation ""


Acts 10-34

"" In very deed i perceive, the god is not a respecter of persons. (But) in
(every) nation, he thaa (feareth) him, and worketh justice, is (acceptable) to him ""


"" God sent the world to the children of israel. preaching peace by
jesus christ, he is lord of (all) ""

"" (all) that believeth and are baptised shall be saved ""


I could probably find many other passages that he is the god of all (the just) and he
does not infact from scripture see color.

he is the lord of all.

the hate has to stop.

peace.




posted on Dec, 21 2002 @ 06:47 PM
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I agree truth, this nonsense must stop now! We were not made by the Lord to hate one another.



posted on Dec, 21 2002 @ 07:52 PM
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*nods* Yep. Racism is crap. We're all humans, and God doesn't want all this going on, 'specially between the blacks and whites(how long has that been goin' on?)



posted on Dec, 21 2002 @ 10:22 PM
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Eleven o'clock on Sunday morning . . . is the most segregated hour in Christian America.óRev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

One wastes time and money in ministering to blacks. . . . What reason can there be that you are so solicitous for the Negro?óa priest, cited in The Miserable Condition of Black Catholics in America, 1903.

AUGUSTUS TOLTON WAS THE SECOND OF THREE CHILDREN born in Missouri to Catholic slave parents in 1854. (Catholic slaves required the permission of their owners to be marriedóeven to receive Communion.) His father escaped slavery in 1861, and some years later his mother took the children to Quincy, Illinois, a town crowded with refugee slaves.

When he was refused admission to Catholic school, Tolton's mother persisted. He received some Catholic education and later was accepted to Quincy College, a Franciscan institution, as a part-time student.

Tolton dreamed of becoming a priest, but no U.S. seminary would accept him. At 25, he was finally admitted to Urban College in Rome with the understanding that he'd work in Africa after ordination.

Instead, after his ordination in 1886, he returned to Illinois, where he was given a tiny black parish of barely 30 people. Some wondered why a few whites attended the "'n-word' priest's" parish, but many whites did accept him, in his words, with "no bitterness because of his complexion."

TOLTON WAS NOT THE FIRST BLACK PRIEST in the United States The three Healy brothers, sons of an Irish immigrant and a slave, were ordained about the time Tolton was born. Throughout their lives, however, they passed as whites. One became bishop of Portland, Maine; a second was named president of Washington's George-town University (which once kept slaves and did not accept black students until the 1920s); and the third priest-brother died of typhoid fever soon after ordination.

At a time when priests mixed only with other priests, Tolton found himself isolated in his diocese. In 1889 he asked for a transfer to Chicago, where an all-black congregation had been worshiping in the basement of a Catholic church since 1881.

He had 260 registered parishioners. Many black Catholics had left the church after they had been hurled out of white churches.

After eight years in Chicago, Tolton died of sunstroke en route home from a retreat. One source said that he was rushed to a Catholic hospital where he was refused admission. He was only 44.

Tolton's life encapsulated the black Catholic experience in America. Although black Catholic communities date back to before the Civil Warówhen they could be found in good numbers in Maryland, alongthe Gulf Coast, and in Floridaóthe record of integration is badly tainted with official indifference and racism.

In an early history, The Miserable Condition of Black Catholics in America (1903), Father Joseph Anciaux, S.S.J. wrote: "Nearly all priests, even the most pious, fear the reproach of white citizens so much that they scarcely dare to make the slightest effort on behalf of blacks; others are so imbued with prejudice that they say: 'The care of blacks is not my concern. They do not belong to my flock.' "

THE U.S. CATHOLIC CHURCH DID LITTLE TO FIGHT racism or to evangelize among the African American community. As recently as 1942, when a black Chicago Catholic wrote the late Cardinal Samuel Stritch complaining that he was required to sit on a side aisle in church, the cardinal responded through his chancellor that no discrimination was intended and that "from 100 to 150 Colored people attend the various Masses at Holy Angels on Sunday [and that] the majority find no inconvenience. . . . I am sure you will feel better about this whole matter if you follow the practice of the majority."

The response, cited in Father Steven Avella's history of the Chicago church from 1940 until 1965, was actually mild by the standards of the time. Elsewhere in Chicago, pastors still stood at the doors of their churches denying admission to blacks. In other cities, blacks risked physical harm if they attempted to enter a church.

If admitted, seating was segregated and blacks approached Communionóor Confessionóonly after whites and received the sacraments from a separate priest. Their children were denied entrance to parish schools except to those that were all-black.

Private Catholic schools and universitiesóincluding the bishops' own Catholic University of America (CUA)ówere almost universally closed to blacks. An early registrar at CUA explained, "It was tried once with exceedingly unhappy results."

Seminaries and most religious orders barred admission to all people of color. Bishop Benjamin Keiley of Savannah, Georgia, who publicly criticized President Theodore Roosevelt for inviting Booker T. Washington to the White House, commented: "In America no black man should be ordained. Just as illegitimate sons are declared irregular by Canon Law . . . so blacks can be declared irregular because they are held in such contempt by whites."

It would be more than another half century after Augustus Tolton's death before the Archdiocese of Chicago, a comparatively progressive and innovative diocese, would ordain its first African American priest.

IN GENERAL, BISHOPS MOVED RELUCTANTLY TO ATTACK racial discrimination and then only under pressure of demographic, social, and political events. The usual episcopal response was: "The opportune moment has not yet arrived." Historian Avella, a Milwaukee priest, observed wryly, "The opportune moment would never arrive."

Racism is not a unique invention of the American melting pot. In nearly all the world's societies, people have developed pride in their cultural accomplishments. Almost inevitably, it has led to derogation of their neigh-bors' successes.

The racist idea that certain groups are genetically superior to others, however, has not been as widespread. Where it exists today, it is mostly the out-growth of the rationalization of slavery and colonial expansion in the Americas and the territories dominated by European settlers.

SOME SCHOLARS DATE THE BEGINNINGS OF RACISM to the Hindu caste system that originated in the physical differences between the Aryans who invaded India between the 16th and 13th centuries B.C. and the conquered Dravidians. The three top castes were composed of Aryans; the fourth caste was made up largely of Dravidians; a fifth group, the untouchables, were all Dravidians.

The Hindi term for casteóvarnaómeans "color." While the Aryans were of lighter skin, varna does not refer to skin pigmentation. It connotes, however, good and evilóand the Dravidians were considered the "bad guys."

The good-bad link moved over to the Judeo-Christian tradition. The darker-skinned enemies continued to be seen as the evil ones and the language became filled with associ-ations of skin color to moral fiber.

Neither Hebrew nor Christian scripture contains clear evidence of racism.

RACISTS, HOWEVER, HAVE USED PASSAGES of the Bible for divine sanctioning of slavery.

Noah's curse on his grandson Canaan (Gen. 9:20-27) served as the prime proof text for their twisted arguments.

When Noah exited the ark, he planted a vineyard. He sampled too much of his wine, got drunk, and lay naked inside his tent.

Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Ham had a son named Canaan. Ham saw his father's nakedness, but his brothers walked backward into the tent to avoid the sight. When Noah awoke, he put a curse on Ham's son, declaring that Canaan "shall be a slave to his brothers."

Modern commentators believe that the story was told to justify the enslavement of the Canaanites because of certain indecent sexual practices in the Canaanite religion. The land of Canaan, stretching from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan and the Dead Sea, was where the Israelites settled.

FOR CENTURIES, EUROPEANS, AMERICANS, AND WHITE South Africans have used this text to justify the enslavement of Africans, whom they considered the children of Canaan.

Some racists also quote the Song of Songs (1:5-6): "I am black but beautiful, O daughters of Jerusalem . . . Do not gaze at me because I am dark, because the sun has gazed on me. My mother's sons were angry with me; they made me keeper of the vineyards."

The verse has been used as biblical justification that dark-skinned people are to occupy a lower rung on the racial ladder and are ordained to serve others.

Similarly, there is no clear justification for racism in the Koran and Islamic tradition. At least 20 percent of the world's Muslims are black, and black African kings have made pilgrimages to Mecca since the Middle Ages. Even the Arabs involved in the slave trade do not appear to have rationalized their actions in the name of religion.

Asian attitudes about race appear to be dictated by a tight insider system,and both Chinese and Japanese often express a marked dislike for physical types that are at variance with their own ideas of beauty.

There is little real evidence of racism among nonliterate or so-called primitive societies. In a few African tribes, there are traces of it based on heightónot much to hang strong hatred on.

Far and away the most widespread, enduring, and virulent form of racism óand the costliest in terms of human sufferingóhas been that which originated in Europe and its colonial extensions.

Early Roman and Greek states were based on status as patrician or plebeian, patron or client, free citizen or slave. Race was not mentioned, other than to term a nonwhite as "exotic."

With the arrival of Christianity, the divisions became religious rather than racial. Status was measured by whether or not one was Moor, Jew, or Christian, and what kind of Christian. Only when Europeans came into contact with large numbers of dark-skinned peoples, as a result of their colonial expansion in the 15th century, did racism start to develop.

The Spanish conquest of the New World led to immediate distinctions between the Spanish in-vaders and the Indians and between the Spanish born in Spain and those born in the New World.

But it was the Dutch and the British who set the pattern for racism in North America, South Africa, and Australia. In each of these places, racism gradually gave way to one of its cousinsósegregation. At about the same time, racism as a "scientific" theory began to take hold in Europe, particularly in Germany.

Although English naturalist Charles Darwin was not a racist, his theory of the survival of the fittest became a convenient peg on which racists could hang their hats. It lasted until around 1930, by which time it had taken political form under Adolf Hitler. His super race was a horrendous exten-sion of Darwin's innocent theories.

There is an undeniable relationship between religion and racism.

Josiah Strong, a minister in the Congregational Church and, iron-ically, a proponent of the "social gospel," defined the world role of Anglo-Saxon Protestantism. In his 1893 best-seller The New Era or the Coming Kingdom, Strong linked "the greatest race" with a more purified form of Christianity that would eventually "spread over the earth."

In the "final competition of the races," the weaker ones (read: blacks, Jews, Catholics) would simply never measure up to the new Anglo-Saxonized humankind. "It would seem as if these inferior tribes were only precursors of a superior race, voices in the wilderness crying 'Prepare ye the way of the Lord!' "

According to Strong, Anglo-Saxon Protestant religiosity was "more vigorous, more spiritual, more Christian than that of any other race." The Anglo-Saxon race, he said, had been chosen to prepare for the full coming of God's kingdom.

Strong's book was widely viewed as a catechism of racial and religi-ous superiority. Yale historian Sydney Ahlstrom comments, "American Protestantism in its best moods was capable of genuine charity, but in its average performance and typical expression, it strengthened nativism, contributing in many ways to extreme manifestations of intolerance, and even providing leadership for nativist organizations."

When the South in the 1890s institutionalized Jim Crow segregation, it was with churches' complicity.

As David M. Reimers writes in White Protestantism and the Negro, "Denomination mattered little, for support for the racist creed ran the gamut from urban Episcopalians to country Baptists."

White Anglo-Saxon Protestant racism was often tied to anti-Catholicism and anti-Semitism. Blacks, Jews, and Catholics were all lumped together as targets of the white-robed Ku Klux Klan, a distinctly Protestant organization that boasted its own chaplains and hymns. "Never before," John Higham wrote in Strangers in the Land, "has a single society gathered up so many hatreds."

Black churches emerged in the first half of the 19th century. Their be-ginnings, observes Cath-erine Meeks, professor of African American studies at Mercer University in Macon, Georgia, were characterized by a "dynamic of the white church's racism and the black church's resistance."

Meeks says, "It was the white control of the worship [on slave-holding plantations], the inability to accept blacks as equals, and the negation of black personhood that led to the separation of the black church from the white church and to the emergence of a black religious community."

Independent black churchesómost of them Baptist or Methodistó"were not separating themselves from whites because they held a different doctrinal view of Christianity," notes James H. Cone of Union Theological Seminary. "Without exception, blacks used the same articles of faith and polity for their churches as the white denominations from which they separated. Separation, for blacks, meant that . . . they were rejecting racism that was based on the assumption that God created blacks inferior to whites."

Even though white Protestant denominations in the 1840s split over the issue of slavery, the congregations of northern Protestants remained just as closed to blacks who moved north. The religious segregation that took shape then persists today. According to one recent poll, fewer than half of the Christians in the U.S. said they attend a church that includes anyone from another race.

Despite this rather bleak overall picture, there were also numerous examples of Protestant efforts to put an end to racism, especially slavery.

Presbyterians spoke out as early as 1818, at a time when several Catholic colleges and seminaries still held slaves. A group of Baptists published a newsletter calling for an end to slavery. Most abolitionist groups were connected to churches.

The Catholic Church in the U.S. was hardly at the forefront in civil rights. It conformed to local normsóin some places right down to seg-regated confessionals, not unlike Southern water fountains.

In 1954, when Bishop Vincent Waters of Raleigh, North Carolina ordered an end to all segregation in the churches, it made national headlines. But former Common-weal editor John Deedy observes, "The American Catholic Church was about as interested in blacks in America as it was in American Indians, which was not very much."

Catholic and white Protestant church leadership was conspicuously absent during most of the civil-rights struggle with its marches, bus boycotts, voter-registration drives, state-university enrollment, and housing protests.

The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote his famous "Letter from Birmingham City Jail" in response to a public statement by eight prominent local church leaders (including the bishops of the Catholic, Episcopal, and Methodist churches), who had denounced him as an "extremist" and "outsider."

In the letter, King expressed his deep disappointment with the white church and its leadership. He accused it of being content "to stand on the sideline and mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities."

King's appeal finally had some effect in awakening significant segments of the white Protestant and Catholic churches. The strongest expression of that belated support was the 1965 Selma March in which many priests, religious, and ministers participated.

But even at Selma, no major Catholic leaders were present. One bishop even reprimanded his priest-secretary for taking part and thus "dragging his name into it."

Catherine Meeks reminds U.S. Christians that racism is still alive in their churches: "Too little has changed! In spite of the struggles of the past for racial equality, racial freedom, and respect, the basic foundation of racism in the church is alive and well. As a matter of fact, it is thriving in an atmosphere of fear and complacency created by the church's lack of conversion to the message of Jesus."

Looking back on this nation's racist history, former member of Congress and Jesuit Father Robert F. Drinan observes, "It is incredible that in a nation with profoundly Christian roots such a thing could have happened."óEND

© 1997 by Claretian Publications



posted on Dec, 21 2002 @ 11:05 PM
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So, do (you) see color toltec?

there is a difference between mens intepretation, and church teaching.

we do not have a (single) doctrine that condones racism, not one.


Alot will proclaim to be christian but few will know its teachings, few will know true love for creatures of the lord.


Those who can love thy (neighbor) of (all) colors as thy self are the true men of god.


This iss biblical teaching, those who hate another race are heretics and (will) answer for it.


It has to stop.



[Edited on 22-12-2002 by Truth]



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 12:21 AM
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You have to realize something truth, hatred of other cultures began with the idea that that colors and creed and religious belief were inherently different. Wars were fought because of these differences. A historical fact is that during the 100 Years War the foot soldier was told that the reason the war was being fought. Is that the other side felt that the sign of the cross, in relation to the terms "Holy Ghost" was begun on the opposite side of the shoulder.

What did this do in relation to differences of color and creed?

Truth the person, who I today am prepared to marry, is of African American decent. And I have recently expressed to her; my love for her transcends this lifetime. I would surrender my very life to guarantee her safety. And at if at any timeshe denied me her love (in every way) it would not be a cause for me to feel anger.

Race is an issue related to culture, which is as well relatable to a system of belief. Are you at this point prepared to acknowledge that other cultures and systems of belief are warranted a benefit of doubt
In relation to their Faith??



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 02:49 AM
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Guys,I don't know for the USA, but in the EU, the real racists are not the whites.The whites peoples don't dare to be racist.

The new racists are now the new immigrants ( Middle-East peoples, North-Africa peoples and Africans peoples ). They are acting like if they have all the rights, and the whites have not any rights.

And it's normal. When you read/heard EVERYWHERE that ONLY the whites are racists, you start to think that you have all the rights and that you can do/say what you want.

There is now a new racism.the anti-whites racism !

And when you try to defend yourself, or just want to explain it, you are called a white racist.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 11:56 AM
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Did you not know that they have been working on the (race) waar for some
time now??



And I bet everyone single member of the Illumanti is white.

As I said before many times, I am not a racist and I am the last person in a line to labeled a racist.

How come all the time, when the white man does all his evils in this world it's overlooked because of one reason, because he's white

but when a black man or muslim man does the same evil the white man has done it's all of a sudden in every newspaper cover page.

the illumanti is raging a black and white war? why? can it be to get rid of all the colored people in the world? the illumanti also can stop starvation in africa, cures of aids in africa, but instead of doing it, he just lets all of them die one by one till who knows what.

Truth, i am not a racist, if i have led you to that impression then i'm sorry... but i cant be held guilty for doing a little bit of research into the race agenda... i was once deaf, dumb, and blind but not anymore, now you persecute me for having a new kind of knowledge I have never have.... founds familiar.


the white man in all his evils has led us to this conversation
the white man invented racism
the white man has saying racial things since the beginning of things, but when someone says something about a white man it's all of a sudden world war 3... but when the white man was doing all the talking it was all good.

and THAT has to stop.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 01:08 PM
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Illmatic67, and you say that you are NOT racist !?


So, everything is the fault of the whites peoples.

Finally, you are brainwashed too, like all of us. If they exist really, the Illuminatis knows what they do and they can be prouds, they have a new victim.YOU !


Illmatic67, we are ALL responsibles. Blacks, whites, browns, yellows, ALL OF US and not just a single race.

" I am the last person in a line to labeled a racist "

What do you mean ? Because you are black ( or do I have to say : because you are NOT white ), you can't be a racist ? What do you try to say ? That ONLY whites are racists ?



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 01:20 PM
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Cmon, U-P...

I have seen white racists in Europe. They just don't show as they do in the U.S. I have seen skinheads in Holland and one of my best friends was in a confrontation with skinheads.

All sides have racists, I've seen white racists, black racists, muslim racists, chinese racists etc...



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795

All sides have racists, I've seen white racists, black racists, muslim racists, chinese racists etc...



Look, I don't understand.What's your point ? Is it not what I wrote in my post ? That we are ALL responsibles ?

Anf for the muslims, in the arabic language, the word for " slaves " and the word for " 'n-word's/blacks " is the same. They have ONLY 1 word for slaves & blacks. Do you know why ? Because the first peoples who were trading slaves were the Arabs.

That's why I'm allways surprised when I see Blacks muslims. I'll never follow a religion who have the same word for saying slaves and for my race.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 03:43 PM
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ultra,

of course there's a racist to every race, i know that.

for the hundreth time, i am NOT a racist... if you dont believe fine, congratulations, i dont got to prove nothing to nobody

and just look into history
whites enslaved the africans
whites killed off the indians

and i know there's black, brown, yellow, and red racist, i KNOW THAT.

but how many black,brown, yellow, and red racists have actually took their prejudice and turned into action? not many as far as i'm concerned.. at least HERE in the states

i dont remember seeing a white man hanging off a tree like some kind of fruit in my history books.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 05:05 PM
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U-P,

Why do you always go further than I type???

I mean that I've seen individual racists in all races. That's what I meant. Nothing more, nothing less.

And where did you get that part 'bout how they call black people in Arabic???



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by Illmatic67

1) and just look into history
whites enslaved the africans
whites killed off the indians

2) but how many black,brown, yellow, and red racists have actually took their prejudice and turned into action? not many as far as i'm concerned.. at least HERE in the states

3) i dont remember seeing a white man hanging off a tree like some kind of fruit in my history books.


1) Ok, let's look in history.


Just some facts :

-The first peoples who tooks blacks peoples like slaves are the Arabs.

- The blacks THEMSELVES had blacks slaves. ( in Africa, in North-America and South-America )

- In Brazil, 1/3 of the peoples who had slaves were blacks themselves.

- When an African tribe was in war with another one, the winner was trading the loser one.

-In most of the cast, whites were buying their slaves to the Arabs traders.

- Slavery IS STILL going on in many African countries, and blacks slaves masters are NOT whites, but blacks !
Check the UN website if you don't believe me.

- The peoples who helped the blacks slaves to become free from slavery are the whites.

- Europeans military navy were fighting in the Mediteranean Sea, the Red Sea and the South-Pacific Ocean against blacks slaves traders ( Arabs )

2) MANY ! But we'll not heard it on the medias. It's not politically correct to say such things.

Some exemples ?

- Zimbabwe, just right now.

- Each time there is a problem in Africa ( revolution, inseruction, war(s)...etc...etc..., the first things that Africans peoples do, it's slaughtering the whites.
History books are full with these stories.

3) It sound like a regret.


But don't worry, many whites were eated in Africa.But I don't rememeber that I saw in my history books, whites peoples who were eating blacks peoples.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by ultra_phoenix

Originally posted by Illmatic67

1) and just look into history
whites enslaved the africans
whites killed off the indians

2) but how many black,brown, yellow, and red racists have actually took their prejudice and turned into action? not many as far as i'm concerned.. at least HERE in the states

3) i dont remember seeing a white man hanging off a tree like some kind of fruit in my history books.


1) Ok, let's look in history.


Just some facts :

-The first peoples who tooks blacks peoples like slaves are the Arabs.

- The blacks THEMSELVES had blacks slaves. ( in Africa, in North-America and South-America )

- In Brazil, 1/3 of the peoples who had slaves were blacks themselves.

- When an African tribe was in war with another one, the winner was trading the loser one to the blacks slaves traders ( Indians ( from India ), Asiatics, Arabs,a nd YES, whites too )

-In most of the case, whites were buying their slaves to the Arabs traders or to another blacks African tribes ( do you remember ? The winner,the loser.... )

- Slavery IS STILL going on in many African countries, and blacks slaves masters are NOT whites, but blacks !
Check the UN website if you don't believe me.

- The peoples who helped the blacks slaves to become free from slavery are the whites.

- Europeans military navy were fighting in the Mediteranean Sea, the Red Sea and the South-Pacific Ocean against blacks slaves traders ( Arabs )

2) MANY ! But we'll not heard it on the medias. It's not politically correct to say such things.

Some exemples ?

- Zimbabwe, just right now.

- Each time there is a problem in Africa ( revolution, inseruction, war(s)...etc...etc..., the first things that Africans peoples do, it's slaughtering the whites.
History books are full with these stories.

3) It sound like a regret.


But don't worry, many whites were eated in Africa.But I don't rememeber that I saw in my history books, whites peoples who were eating blacks peoples.




posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 05:32 PM
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Blacks are still enslaving blacks in Africa today. Seems the only ones that seem to notice are the white Christians.
Back in "the day", Africans sold Africans to the slave merchants who were mostly not Anglo-Saxxon in decent (Portugese, for example).

Today, Africa is not the only place where slavery is found. White slavery sex slaves, sex slavery in Asia and elsewhere, but unless it happened in America a few hundred years ago and unless white Americans can be blamed for their nation's past, it doesn't mean a thing.

If slavery were the actual issue, it'd be attacked in the here and now, and the ones enslaving would be the targets, even if those were Islamic Africans.
Seems like there is overlooking in the world today, about today.

I need go no further for even more recent evidence of your racism than your comment that the white man invented racism. You've had a racist slur to your posts since coming back from your indepth "research", which I'm beginning to suspect has something to do with the NOI cult.

Yes, I doubt there are Blacks in the inner circle of the Agenda, and I believe they have intentions of wiping out the people native to Africa. They have progressed little, war often and are destroying the continent, and the Agenda sees them as no value added to their desires. But we aren't them. In case your mind that you claim hold no bias or racism in it hasn't noticed, you are talking to a room of your peers, the simple, mindless sheep with no say-so. We are the ones, if you truly aren't a bigot (even though your posts indicate otherwise), you would invite to your wedding, eat lunch with at work, talk politics with at break, stop by the pub with after work...you get the point. We are in the same fixed-wage, one vote, obey the speed limit, not invited to the secret meetings that the Kennedy's and Rockerfellers attend boat that you are in. So don't throw the Illuminati's agenda at us as if we Jow-six-pack whites are to blame for it.

It would seem that racism was roundly condemned here in this thread by everyone, until you threw some in.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 06:52 PM
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Illmatic, would ya get off u_p's back?

First off, the whites did not invent slavery and racial homicide. That's been around since the times of the Sumerians and Egyptians and Assyrians. Us whites just took on the same kind of prejudgice. TC's got a point: Blacks are practically enslaving their own.

The Egyptians took anyone they beat in battle and made them slaves. look what they did to the Hebrews for how many thousands of years? They weren't white, but the Hebrews(as far as I know) were.

Then, the Assyrians and everybody in that span of time. The Assyrians practically took over all of the Fertile Crescent and were totally cruel to every slave they took. That's why everybody went out and had a big ol' celebration when they were overthrown.

The imperialistic Chinese had their share of slaves as well. not many compared to other civilizations, but a lot.

It's been going on for thousands of years: Polytheists killing monotheists, white killing blacks, Palestinians killing Israelis, the whole "Germans suck" attitude of the early 20th century, the English enslaving everyone in their path... It's not just the whites, like you make it sound. It started with probably the Sumerians and went up. And while the whites have been doing a majority of the racial killing, just look at portions of Africa, S. America, and the Middle East, and you'll see racism.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 07:31 PM
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Hey truth, can you say common sense? Of course the racial sh*t should stop. And the defenders should be killed.

First, no more christianity. Second, no more Africa. Third, no more Mauslim. Fourth, no more Asia. Fifth, no more South America. Sixth, no more Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Virginia, and other confederate states.

First. Christians defended slavery. Christians held over 95% of slaves in the US.

Second. Today most slavery happens there.

Third. Mauslim started most of this. Well, arabs, and arabs mauslim. Make the connection.

Fourth. Most sex slaves from here. Now to men this isn't bad, but to women, well, duh. Women have rights, unless in Asia, Arab lands, Africa, South America.

Fifth. Another place where slavery happens today.

Sixth. Confederate states still have major racist problems. White Knights of Christianity from there. KKK from there to.

Well, truth, common sense tells you to not to be racist. Like it says do not jab knives in your stomach. Or how common sense says when driving don't speed up to hundred ten with your eyes closed while on wrong side of street. But of course some common sense isn't as strong in some areas as it should be.



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 07:47 PM
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James, why do you think Chirstianity should be abolsihed? Just becuase you don;'t belive in God?



posted on Dec, 22 2002 @ 08:02 PM
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Are you kidding me?

christiaty will not go away, true christians are the saints of god, it is gods founded religion, the antichrist at his
time will try to exicute all christian to death.

But james, how can you say this?

true christian teaching from our bible and strait out of jesus mouth are these.


1. Love thy (enemies) and pray for those who persicute you.

2. Love thy neighbor as thy self.


How can you go wrong by these?

95 percent of (hypocrites) held slaves in the us.


true christians live by those two.

What do you want james?

6 billion goerge carlons and his insane non belief in god?

You actually believed that little comedy stint?

James do you believe in killing?

Ok, then will you agree when the biblical antichrist orders all christinas to be killed?

answer.


peace.





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