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Originally posted by meremortal
and another thing you mentioned the triangle with salome!
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Originally posted by The_Modulus
Therefore most of those passages are taken completely out of context and thus difficult to understand. Nevermind the fact that the communication of that era generally seems highly cryptic in comparison to modern forms of communication.
Originally posted by Clearskies
Jesus NEVER hurt children, especially in a childish, tantrum!
Many of the Jews did think that his power came from the devil, because they had no relationship with God.
Originally posted by Nohup
Anyway, it's Jesus who admits to using demon power. He admits to using the prime demon Beelzebub, but justifies is as pitting the demon against Satan to "divide the kingdom."
Originally posted by zerotime
Jesus confronts these people who are spreading rumors and ask them - How can Satan cast out Satan. No where in that passage is Jesus claiming to being Satan or says he uses demonic powers but completely the opposite. He is confronting the liars, and telling them that he is not Satan by using a parable that they would understand.
Originally posted by scorps
This definetly puts a whole new twist on Christianity. Its very scary to think that the majority of the this world could be whorshipping a complete fraud. There is one concern though, but what if he wasn't using demons and he was actually using angels. That would seem more correct, wouldn't it?
Now Im curious how one might find these demons.
Within Scripture, actual possession by demonic forces is almost exclusively a New Testament phenomenon. Certainly, references to demons do occur in the Old Testament. Demons are mentioned in such passages as Leviticus 17:7, Deuteronomy 32:17, 2 Chronicles 11:15, Psalms 95:5 and 106:37, and Isaiah 13:21 and 34:14. None of these biblical passages speak, however, of that "use of a living body by another spirit" as one writer has defined possession.4 Though spiritism is forbidden in Scripture, what is referred to in Leviticus 19, Deuteronomy 18 and Isaiah 8 doesn't seem to have included possession.
Dealing with demon possession was an integral part of Jesus' daily life and ministry. It was also something in which He involved the Apostles and His other followers. As Bible scholar and Christian apologist Merrill Unger reminds his readers: "Not only did Jesus cast out demons, . . . but he delegated this power to the Twelve, to the Seventy, and even to believers."10
Originally posted by marg6043
I looks like during Jesus time Demons were a big problem.
Originally posted by yahn goodey
reply to post by xxpigxx
you asked----what does the bible say about this ?
conspiracy wise----------2 corinthians 4:4 satan is the god of this world.see also matthew 4:9 and luke 4:5-7