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There is no hard evidence on any nuclear arm program, ever.
Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by JanusFIN
Remind me when America declared war on South Africa?
Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
Originally posted by JanusFIN
I cry that day when the first bomb hit the innocent ground.
That is a very naive position at the least. Iran is asking for it by their actions.
They didn't sign any paper for the non proliferation stuff though.I'm sure if they sign one some pressure would go away.
At first i must say i was mad at Iran but after informing myself better, it looks like they're complying with the directives/experts work of EIA (for the most part) so what can you do?
Nothing really they're in their plain right to develop as much nuclear energy as they want.
So i agree, when i read "possible WMD", this is blatant lie.There is no spider under the rock but i can't predict the future.
It's all about oil & stability of the region the first who's gonna pull the trigger @ Iran is gonna get it all wrong and for all of us.
Umm.....What oil fields has the U.S. took over and is taking the oil for it's own consumption? I think your theory has a BIG hole in it.
"I'm saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: The Iraq war is largely about oil." – Alan Greenspan
-Allow two-thirds of Iraq’s oil fields to be developed by private oil corporations. In contrast, the oil industry has been nationalized in every other major Middle Eastern producer for over 30 years.
-Place governing decisions over oil in a new body known as the Iraqi Federal Oil and Gas Council, which may include foreign oil companies;
-Open the door for foreign oil companies to lock up decades-long deals now, when the Iraqi government is at its weakest.
Overall, the law would secure the agenda of ExxonMobil, Chevon, and the other majors, robbing the Iraqi people of their most basic source of wealth. Much is at stake. With 115 billion barrels of proven reserves ($7 trillion worth at $64 per barrel) and another 215 billion possible or likely ($14 trillion), there’s nearly a million dollars of oil for every Iraqi citizen. It’s a vast and precious national resource—but only if Iraqis are allowed to control it themselves.
"By 2010 we will need [a further] 50 million barrels a day. The Middle East, with two-thirds of the oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize lies." - US Vice President Dick Cheney, then Halliburton chief executive officer, London, autumn 1999
On Monday, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's cabinet in Baghdad approved the draft of the new Iraqi oil law. The government regards it as "a major national project". The key point of the law is that Iraq's immense oil wealth (115 billion barrels of proven reserves, third in the world after Saudi Arabia and Iran) will be under the iron rule of a fuzzy "Federal Oil and Gas Council" boasting "a panel of oil experts from inside and outside Iraq". That is, nothing less than predominantly US Big Oil executives.
Here's a history lesson to help put some things in perspective for you. And BTW, you'll notice that all of these presidents are democrats ...
a. FDR led us into World War II with Germany.
b. Germany never attacked us ; Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost
an average of 112,500 per year.
c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea
North Korea never attacked us .
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost .
an average of 18,334 per year.
d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.
e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ..
an average of 5,800 per year.
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us . He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.
BTW, Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
[edit on 3/18/2008 by centurion1211]
Originally posted by sy.gunson
Good on the Germans...
This is what I call adding good karma.