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Should Poles be permitted to join the British Army?




Topic started on 18-3-2008 @ 06:30 AM by UK Wizard


Call for Poles to be allowed to join UK Army


Army recruitment officers want a review of restrictions on foreigners serving in the British forces, after a surge in interest from Polish immigrants hoping to join up.

People from outside the Commonwealth must currently live in Britain for five years and take British citizenship before they can sign up.

However, as the manning crisis in the Armed Forces deepens, a surge of interest from Polish immigrant workers has prompted some to call for a loosening of the rules.


With the British Army short by "5,500" troops could the option for Poles to be granted permission to join the British Army be a solution to both the current manpower shortage in the Army and help put a pin in the silly "us" and "them" view that some people have with Poles working in the UK.

I have nothing against the proposal to permit Poles to join the British Army in fact I'd go so far as to support it, I think they'd be a credit to the uniform they wish to wear.

Watching the "Wright Stuff" this morning an individual had phoned in and expressed the opinion they shouldn't be permitted to serve for the simple reason they aren't British, however what this rather ignorant chappy forgot was that our Army is made up of many different nationalities who are just as loyal as anyone born within the UK.



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reply posted on 18-3-2008 @ 07:09 AM by Freeborn


The Poles are a very brave and battle hardened nation who have a long and proud miltary tradition.
The Free Poles who escaped Poland and fought alongside The Allies during World War 2 fought most gallantly and bravely.
The majority of Poles also hold the British Military in high regard and esteem and they also tend to have a huge respect for Britain as we "went to war for Poland".

On those grounds I would have no reservations in allowing Polish people to serve in the British Armed Forces.

But would that be papering over the cracks?
Shouldn't we be asking ourselves;
"Why is there a shortfall of 5,500 in our Armed Forces?"
"Why are there so many Poles living here?"



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reply posted on 18-3-2008 @ 10:52 AM by Ste2652



Originally posted by UK Wizard
Watching the "Wright Stuff" this morning an individual had phoned in and expressed the opinion they shouldn't be permitted to serve for the simple reason they aren't British, however what this rather ignorant chappy forgot was that our Army is made up of many different nationalities who are just as loyal as anyone born within the UK.



Excellent point; the Gurkhas aren't British either yet they serve the UK with distinction. Indeed, they are considered to be an elite unite and are very highly regarded. The French have their Foreign Legion, too, which is widely respected. I don't see why Poles who want to serve in the UK armed forces can, so long as they take up British citizenship and meet the entry requirements (fitness, speaking English and so on) then there shouldn't be any problem at all.



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reply posted on 18-3-2008 @ 11:42 AM by stumason


Indeed.

I ummed about this for a while, but I agree with Ste2652.

If they can cut the mustard with regards to entrance requirements, speak English, become British and pledge allegiance to the Queen, then I don't care much if they're Polish or Martian.

Cannon fodder is cannon fodder, after all.....



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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 11:59 AM by spymaster



Originally posted by Freeborn
The Poles are a very brave and battle hardened nation who have a long and proud miltary tradition.



Quite right!

As the GURKHA's have fought alongside the British army (and still do to this day) why not welcome "any nationality" that is willing to fight for and join the British army?

Just so long as the required standards are met, and perhaps after a propsed term of 5years of service, then as, in the F.F.L citizenship is then allowed?

I cannot see a problem with Poles joing the British army



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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 05:56 PM by infinite


Why not?

They fought with us in the second world war, so I don't see a problem. If they want to fight, let them.

If citizens from the Republic of Ireland and Commonwealth can join, why not the Poles?



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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 07:50 AM by Exopolitician


Yeah, if they are loyal to Britain and can meet the entry requirements, it's ok.

However, it seems like they want more young men to send off to the Middle East. Hmmm.....Iran, Mr. Brown?



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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 07:56 AM by sy.gunson




Yeah, if they are loyal to Britain and can meet the entry requirements, it's ok.



Loyal... How soon we forget the Polish Paratroopers who gave their lives at Arnheim Bridge for the British ?

How soon we forget the Poles who flew and gave their lives in the Battle of Britain ?

During WW2 these guys were regular heros for the British.

And whislt the Brits are at it, why can't former Gurkas settle in the UK.

Even asking this question makes me ashamed to hold a British passport.




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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 12:08 PM by Exopolitician


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So it is wrong of me to suggest that someone who wants to join the British Army should be loyal to Britain? It was not meant as an offence. Good day, amigo.



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