Why can't Christians be green?, page 1

This video clip is one of the craziest things I have ever seen when it comes to a Christian way of thinking (Southern Baptist to be specific). The question being asked in this thread is, how come these Christians can't be pro-environment?
This video clip shows how they believe that being Pro-Environment (green) promotes population control through same sex marriage and abortion and that people are not truly informed as to what global warming is. They apparently believe that global warming is a sign of the rapture. These baptists believe that curbing global warming is meant to delay the coming Rapture. WOW!!!! That, to me, is completely over the top Religious Conspiracy!! I thought no one knew the exact time of the Rapture? So how can they claim it is being slowed down by the argument of man-made global warming?
How can someone believe that by helping the environment , it will make you homosexual and promote abortion? It seems that they are really stretching it on this one.

He also unwittingly acknowledges that global warming is REAL but they don't want to stop it because it only delays "the Second Coming". Perkins says you should prepare to be Raptured, not "throw away the keys to your SUV and jump on the Al Gore bandwagon."

Link to text and video

Any thoughts?

reply to post by palehorse23

---

Being an environmentalist would actually be more in line with Yeshua's teachings. The Earth is a part of "God's creation" so respecting it would be "godly."

Its ridiculous this pastor associates environmentalism with same sex marriage and abortion, but I guess these people lump everyone who views a certain way as "liberal" and "evil."

I would not consider myself a liberal politically, but I certainly have some radical views that others would call me liberal for.

It seems if you actually formulate your own opinion on every issue you're a liberal.

Sue me

reply to post by palehorse23

---

www.dallasnews.com...

VATICAN CITY -- A Vatican keen to show its green side has added pollution to the realm of "new sins" that today's Catholics must confront and avoid.

In this age of expanding globalization, the Vatican is telling followers that sin is not just an individual act but can also be a transgression against the larger community.

An offense against God, said senior official Msgr. Gianfranco Girotti, "is not only stealing or coveting another man's wife, it is also destroying the environment."

Pollution was just one of several sins that Girotti decried as products of modern circumstances that must be addressed urgently.

That sounds pretty green to me.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus

---

That is good for the Vatican, although I do not think they should be classified as sins. This particular video deals with baptists though. And they seem to think that abortion and homosexuality is encouraged through man-made global warming. That is the issue here. The Vatican is crazy as well. To change the "sins" just to terminology dealing with todays world is ridiculous IMO. But that's just me.

reply to post by saint4God

---

Unless you have some grounds that demonstrates where the leader of Christianity (which is Christ) says not to be green, there isn't any point in continuing a discussion.

That is typical. duck and run. Do you not pay attention to the article? It isn't about Christ, it is about Baptist Christians. People are not even addressing the issue.
Let's try this again. How can they claim the relation between environmentalism and abortion and homosexuality? Since Christ isn't here to tell everyone what to do (although I am sure you think he is), people rely on these pastors to help them learn the ways. So when guys like this come out with such outlandish statements, of course a discussion is warranted. If you don't want to offer a valid point and opinion, then don't bother posting.
Why wouldn't you support your religion and make its point instead of belittling others. I am sure Jesus wouldn't approve of your methods.
Besides, I thought the Pope was the leader of Christianity! Or is it Pat Robertson, or Benny Hinn, or any number of other "preachers" in this world.

reply to post by Zeptepi

---

You see, that is the exact problem I have with the whole religious argument. I really do not want to have to discern between who is good or bad and who is hiding behind the veil of Christianity and who is sincere. You all have a different argument and different defense of your particular faith. Why should I take heed to what you say over the guy in the video clip? Some may consider you a fanatic by your response. It is all individual perception. When any faith leader, whether it be the pope, a baptist spokesman, an Amish leader, claims to 'have the answer', I have a real hard time believing anything that comes out of their mouth.

reply to post by palehorse23

---

Yes I think we agree. I too have a hard time trying to reconcile their words and actions with what I see in the world.

Fortunately , they seem to be arguing amongst themselves. As it always has been, nothing new under the sun it seems.

My point is that the media coverage of it has a tendency to torque a perceived rhetoric of a preposterous dogma onto a willing audience. Like the one that screams the loudest wins. It never ceases to amaze me what the gullible will believe. And the scary thing is that more and more buy into this whole charade.

At least in the middle ages, the people then had no choice. Burning at the stake for disbelief is no longer in force. Even if they were kept in ignorance. Could the same be true today? From this, it seem possible.

reply to post by biggie smalls

---

The distinction one needs to make though is that there is a difference between conservation and good stewardship, and what many in the environmental movement subscribe to, which is a religion in itself.
Christians worship the creator not the creation, which is where the difference lies. While it's important to be a good steward, that's kind of a secondary issue with regards to what the mission of Christianity is, which is reaching others for Christ. The greater emphasis is on the eternal rather than the temporal.

"God is an Imaginary Friend" Athiest Billboards in Denver-
  Posted 18 days ago with 31 member flags

Why are these 10 figures just like Jesus Christ??
  Posted 5 days ago with 14 member flags

What if all the major religions started out with the same story and it slowly diverged from there
  Posted 7 days ago with 11 member flags

I am an imposter in Church
  Posted 4 days ago with 11 member flags

Christians Waking Up? Voluntary \'De-Baptism\' Rising in Europe
  Posted 19 days ago with 7 member flags

What Kind of Christianity Is This?
  Posted 16 days ago with 7 member flags

The Great Flood Was Caused By A Comet?
  Posted 11 days ago with 7 member flags

Advert claiming cure through prayer is banned
  Posted 5 days ago with 7 member flags

Newest topics, updated in real-time:

Newest topics getting flags, in real-time:

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time: