Round 3. Intrepid v Animal: The Other, Other, Other, Other Dead Kennedy

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posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 03:56 PM
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The topic for this debate is "There is sufficient reason to suspect that Kathleen Agnes Kennedy's death was not accidental".

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posted on Mar, 18 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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My thanks once again for the efforts of The Vagabond in setting up these debates. Salutations to Animal.

Topic:

"There is sufficient reason to suspect that Kathleen Agnes Kennedy's death was not accidental".

First off we may need a brief introduction on this Kennedy.


Kathleen Agnes Kennedy was the second daughter of Senator Joseph P.Kennedy and a sister of the US President John F.Kennedy.

In 1943 she came to England to work for the Red Cross and married William Cavendish, the Marquess of Hartington the heir of the 10th Duke of Devonshire. The Dukes having their ancestral home at Chatsworth House.

Four months after the marriage her husband was killed in action with the Coldstream Guards by a German sniper in Belgium.

In 1948 Kathleen died in an air crash with her lover Peter Wentworth-FitzWilliam whilst on their way to seek the blessing of Joseph Kennedy Sr for their relationship.


www.youandyesterday.co.uk...

Was this an accident? Possibly. There are however several aspects of this lady's life and family past that could lead one to reasonably suspect that her death was not an accident.

One aspect would be the relationships she had with British royalty. Not only on a social level but also on one based on religion. Politics also comes into play, particularly the conflict between the British and the IRA.

Also, everything was not calm in Camelot. It may have been in the mid to later part of the 20th century but in the early part of the 1900's that was not the case.

As I delve into this further it will become apparent that there clearly IS "sufficiently reason to suspect" that her untimely death was more than an accident. I will show "motive" for such actions to be taken, correlating this with modern day conspiracy theory.

More to follow. On to you Animal.



posted on Mar, 19 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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"There is sufficient reason to suspect that Kathleen Agnes Kennedy's death was not accidental".

Let's look at the Monarchy

Kathleen(a Catholic) was married into the British monarchy:


In 1943 she came to England to work for the Red Cross and married William Cavendish, the Marquess of Hartington the heir of the 10th Duke of Devonshire.


www.youandyesterday.co.uk...

The Marquess did his duty in WW11 and fell 4 months later to a German sniper. This left a boisterous widow in England. How did she conduct herself?


Kathleen Kennedy, known to friends as "Kick", married William John Robert Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington, a Protestant and the eldest son and heir of the 10th Duke of Devonshire on May 6, 1944. Other than her brother Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., no one from the Kennedy family attended the marriage ceremony. Her husband was killed only four months later by a German sniper in World War II and his younger brother Andrew Cavendish, married to Deborah Mitford, became heir to the dukedom.

Popular on the London social circuit and admired by many for her high spirits — though more traditional members of British society found fault with her boisterousness — the dashing young widow eventually became the mistress of Peter Wentworth-FitzWilliam, 8th Earl FitzWilliam.[1] The couple planned to wed after Fitzwilliam's planned divorce.


Bold is mine. She was "Kick". Kick was wild. Kick was bold, Kick was everything that the royal family didn't need at the time. Already reeling from the abdication of a king in Edward VIII, wedded to a commoner, let alone a Catholic:


King Edward VIII, 1894-1972
Later Duke of Windsor. King for just 11 months between January and December 1936, after he succeeded his father George V. Abdicated because he insisted on marrying "the woman I love", Wallis Simpson, provoking the biggest royal crisis of the 20th century.


www.guardian.co.uk...

Could the monarchy take another hit so soon? Would another scandal harm the monarchy at a difficult time in the 20th century? Kick was interesting BUT Kick was Catholic. Religious doctrine hurt her, not only in England but with her own family. More on that later.

The meat of the issue:


the dashing young widow eventually became the mistress of Peter Wentworth-FitzWilliam, 8th Earl FitzWilliam.[1] The couple planned to wed after Fitzwilliam's planned divorce. Instead, while on a trip to visit Joseph Kennedy Sr. and gain his blessing for their relationship, Lord Fitzwilliam and Lady Hartington died in an airplane crash over Sainte-Bauzille, Ardèche, France.


Would this lead to the monarchy to take action on this person? Kick already had a "kick" at the can, marrying a member of the royal family. He died doing his duty. She was going to marry another person of distinction. Would the Windsors take this at par? THAT is the question. Do you think that the royal family is willing and able to act nefariously on an individual?



posted on Mar, 21 2008 @ 10:49 AM
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Animal has elected not to participate in this topic. Intrepid will advance.





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