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Heaven can't exist! But hell can!

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posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 04:49 PM
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Has anyone heard this "When you try to satisfy all, you end up satisfying no one"?

If I am not wrong, heaven is a place satisfatory to all, right?

What you do might please one and annoy another, meaning one will be happy and the other will end up sad.

So how can a place exist, where everyone is happy?

But, hell can exist, for example, there are two groups of opposite minded people, what you do might make one happy and might make the other sad, because they opposite; sensing that one is unhappy, you try make them happy, therefore making the other group sad, and it goes on and on and no one is truly happy.

And that is my oppinion, you comments?




posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 04:59 PM
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I know MY idea of heaven isnt even close to what a lot of peoples would be and what the heaven I read about in the bible sounds as boring as.....well hell


I cannot concieve of a heaven without strip clubs and crown royal

And lap dances are free



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk
I know MY idea of heaven isnt even close to what a lot of peoples would be and what the heaven I read about in the bible sounds as boring as.....well hell

I cannot concieve of a heaven without strip clubs and crown royal
And lap dances are free


I think your conception of heaven is pretty close to 99% of the men's in general.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 05:15 PM
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My opinion is that you make your own heaven or hell, dependant on the state of your conscience at the time of your death. In effect, you 'judge yourself' and create your own afterlife.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 05:42 PM
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from calvin and hobbes - calvins heaven wud be with tigers, but tigers wudnt eat people. hobbes' heaven, tigers can eat people (and babes!)
obviously, theyre both gonna go so what happens?
yeah, i dunno, i take it that heaven cant exist. i think, if anything, it allows for less of a chance for hell to exist.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by surfup
Has anyone heard this "When you try to satisfy all, you end up satisfying no one"?

If I am not wrong, heaven is a place satisfatory to all, right?

What you do might please one and annoy another, meaning one will be happy and the other will end up sad.

So how can a place exist, where everyone is happy?

But, hell can exist, for example, there are two groups of opposite minded people, what you do might make one happy and might make the other sad, because they opposite; sensing that one is unhappy, you try make them happy, therefore making the other group sad, and it goes on and on and no one is truly happy.

And that is my oppinion, you comments?


first of all, you're assuming that that little statement is absolute truth. but, for the sake of the argument, let's say that it is truth. many times this really does happen anyways. but you're trying to apply something that happens here in life, to something after life. not only that, but you're assuming heaven behaves in an earthly manner. also, God is the creator of everything and extremely powerful, knowledgeable, and loving, so i think he could arrange heaven so everyone is happy. i think the fact that one is able to be close to God, is enough to satisfy them regardless of what their earthly pleasures were.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 06:53 PM
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first of all, you're assuming that that little statement is absolute truth. but, for the sake of the argument, let's say that it is truth. many times this really does happen anyways. but you're trying to apply something that happens here in life, to something after life. not only that, but you're assuming heaven behaves in an earthly manner. also, God is the creator of everything and extremely powerful, knowledgeable, and loving, so i think he could arrange heaven so everyone is happy. i think the fact that one is able to be close to God, is enough to satisfy them regardless of what their earthly pleasures were.


You are assuming too, aren't you. You are assuming that the little statement isn't true, but I believe it is and it is the reality.

You are also assuming that God exists, which he might not for all we know.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 10:31 PM
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Surf,
Your quote "When you try to satisfy all, you end up satisfying no one" was made by a limited human being with a limited rationale. Pay no heed to it. God can do what He pleases. Where did this quote come from?



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 10:49 PM
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Your quote "When you try to satisfy all, you end up satisfying no one"...God can do what He pleases. Where did this quote come from?


I said that. J/K I saw it in my history text-book.

How is it possible to satisfy everyone completely, compromise might be reached and each side could be happy partially, but how can they be satsified completely? If not, that isn't heaven is it?



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 11:25 PM
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When you get to Heaven you will be completely satisfied, all your answers will be fullfilled. Your questions, including this one
will be answered too! Gos had a habit of working wonders, trust Him and you won't be dissapointed. God has made us and knows us inside and out, he knows what it takes for all of us to be satisified.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by Cearbhall
When you get to Heaven you will be completely satisfied, all your answers will be fullfilled. Your questions, including this one
will be answered too! Gos had a habit of working wonders, trust Him and you won't be dissapointed. God has made us and knows us inside and out, he knows what it takes for all of us to be satisified.


I simply can't accept that God has the power to do anything, if he does, then why does Satan exist? Just kill Satan and let people enjoy life.

You could be right, because no one who has gone to Heaven, has come back.

This is off topic.
If God does exist, then why all the drama of humans, wars, and killing?



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 11:35 PM
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Because of human pride and selfishness, humans have free will and are prone to make terrible decisions (wars etc.).

God won't take free will away, and it is us humans that are the cause, with the help of Satan and his minions, of the unpleasantness of the world.

Satan's demise is already in the works and will come to being when Christ comes back the second time. Rest assure that Satan will get his in the end.

Remember pride is a dangerous thing, it is one of the seven deadly sins, careful not to fall into it as Lucifer (Satan) did.



posted on Feb, 21 2004 @ 11:38 PM
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Satan's demise is already in the works and will come to being when Christ comes back the second time. Rest assure that Satan will get his in the end.


Why does he have to come back, when he has all the power?

Heaven exists only in our mind, it is just an idea, for people who can't accept that life ends after death. It is hope, if there wasn't any hope, we wouldn't be here.



posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 12:39 AM
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sorry, im sure most of you have seen this, but given the topic at hand, i couldn't resist. here is proof that heaven is hotter than hell, and then a refutation of that proof.



posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 07:43 PM
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heaven is a place where you dont have to do anything you just relax and get almost anything you want you dont have to do anything for others they will get whatever they want themselves sooooooooooooo heaven does exist and so does hell.



posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Pisky
My opinion is that you make your own heaven or hell, dependant on the state of your conscience at the time of your death. In effect, you 'judge yourself' and create your own afterlife.



I agree with that statement. But I also believe in reincarnation and true heaven is when we achieve Nirvana and finally become one with "GOD" again.

oops bad spelling tonight


[Edited on 2-22-2004 by worldwatcher]



posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 07:47 PM
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Maybe heaven is different for everyone, maybe everyone enjoys a spererate heaven/hell, all which are interlinked but different?


who knows.



posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 07:49 PM
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i believe when a person (in soul form or whatever) is in heaven, u r ultimately happy because ure are IN happiness 4 EVER!!! U dont do anythang in heaven but be happy!!! Isn't that great???!!!???




posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 08:02 PM
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but then wouldn't happiness loose it's novelty? then you'd want something more?



posted on Feb, 22 2004 @ 08:10 PM
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I (no human) can desribe the LOVE or HAPPINESS in heaven... this is so because its not love or happiness its WAY beyond ANYTHANG we EVER felt be4... i hope i get there because ma religion teacher tells me its the GREATEST feeling u will ever feel...its better than anythang in this world... when ure in heaven u dont want anythang cause the love surpasses ALL... so u dont want anythang greater cuz there is NOTHING greater!!!




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