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9/11 What evidence would make you believe in a conspiracy?

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posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant
The perdue video is about the WTC which is what I was talking about.
As you should have remembered.



Originally posted by jfj123
Well all Ultima needs to do is some very advanced physics calculations to disprove the Purdue video. :


But the same thing did happen at the WTC, just like the Perdue video shows the aluminum airframe shredded by the outter steel beams the same with the photo of the airframe being shredded by the trees.

The fact remains the aluminum airframe at the WTC or at the Pentagon is not going to make it through.

[edit on 15-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]




posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 02:36 PM
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But the same thing did happen at the WTC, just like the Perdue video shows the aluminum airframe shredded by the outter steel beams the same with the photo of the airframe being shredded by the trees.

[sarcasm]
Yes it shows the plane getting shredded on the outside then somehow magically becoming mostly intact 25% of the way through the building.
Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt
[sarcasm]

That was debris from the building falling BEHIND it obscuring the plane as it went through.
You didn't watch the whole video and still refuse to admit it.
Though it shows greatly.



[edit on 15-4-2008 by WraothAscendant]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant
Yes it shows the plane getting shredded on the outside .


So you agree with me, ok.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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Erm. Did you or did you not see the sarcasm tab?
This is indicative of your research approach yanno?



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant

This is indicative of your research approach yanno?


So show me how an aluminum airframe can penatrate all the way through the Pentagon walls if you believe it did. Or admit that the airframe could not have pentatrated all the way through.

I will be waitng for your evidence.


[edit on 15-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 06:17 PM
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Here is a link to the Purdue animation
www.youtube.com...

Here is a blow by blow

The plane enters through the outer wall fairly intact based on the GEOMETRY portion of the video.

and starts shredding as it destroys internal columns.

The Head On View shows:
Columns being destroyed on 2 levels
I counted 16 columns directly in frame being destroyed. I'm sure there were more but I only included the ones seen within frame.

Just thought I'd throw a few bits of info into the pot.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by jfj123
The plane enters through the outer wall fairly intact based on the


How can you lie? The plane is getting shredded as soon as it hits the outter beams, the wings barley make it into the building.If you look at the actual photos of the holes in the towers you will see this is true.

How many times do i have to state the obvious for anyone with a small amount of common sense. The aluminum airframe is not going to survive contact with a building and make it through.



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jfj123
The plane enters through the outer wall fairly intact based on the


How can you lie? The plane is getting shredded as soon as it hits the outter beams, the wings barley make it into the building.If you look at the actual photos of the holes in the towers you will see this is true.

How many times do i have to state the obvious for anyone with a small amount of common sense. The aluminum airframe is not going to survive contact with a building and make it through.



You obviously haven't watched the video. I posted the link. WATCH IT before you start calling people liers. You're stating the physics of the Purdue University or inaccurate so please post your physics equations that prove this. Put your money where your mouth is.

[edit on 16-4-2008 by jfj123]



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 06:23 AM
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I am now convinced you didn't watch the video all the way through.
Thank you for proving my point.

And I hope others are reading this because these type of problems I have dealt with from a great number of "truthers".

[edit on 16-4-2008 by WraothAscendant]



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
You obviously haven't watched the video.



Originally posted by WraothAscendant
I am now convinced you didn't watch the video all the way through.
Thank you for proving my point.


I am still waiting for a frame that shows the aircraft NOT being shredded.

Also waiting for a frame that shows the airframe making it through the building.

Maybe you should also try looking at the actual photos of the holes in the towers to see that the plane barely made it into the buildings.



[edit on 16-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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Your still waiting for your fantasy to become reality. I showed you in the past where it shows the plane largely intact going through to hit the core columns.
I still have them I can post them again. Just need to dig in my photobucket account.








And like I say your showing your rather shoddy research skills here.
Considering you haven't even watched the video all the way through.
Yet you want me to believe you.
Rrrrriiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhhhhtttttttttt............

[edit on 16-4-2008 by WraothAscendant]



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant
Your still waiting for your fantasy to become reality. I showed you in the past where it shows the plane largely intact going through to hit the core columns.


Sorry but it does not look too intact to me.

Where are the wings, where is the nose, where is the main airframe, where is the strongest part? Oh and no tail section.

Does not look like it made into the buidling too much. It looks like it did not make it through the building at all.

[edit on 16-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Apr, 16 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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Here's a frame showing the plane entering the building




Here's a frame showing the tail section entering the building





posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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It is fairly suspitious when you concider something most americans (and canadians because of our involvment) should know about. The North American continent is constenly moninored by raidar and other tracking systems. This would alow the military bases which run these systems to know if a comersial jet it off course within a minut or two. The planes hijacked were all heading to califonia and departed from Massachusetts, Washington DC, and New Jersy. The result is, all the plains would have had to go off course long before they crashed anywhere. So, why fighter jets, capable of speeds far greater then the pasanger planes, not called upon to deal with the situation?



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
Here's a frame showing the plane entering the building


So why does the prior frames show no nose, wings, or tail making it inside the building?

Why does the actual photos of the holes show the wings barely made it into the building?



[edit on 17-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jfj123
Here's a frame showing the plane entering the building


So why does the prior frames show no nose, wings, or tail making it inside the building?

The prior frames show the plane entering the building from an outside view. What is wrong with that?


Why does the actual photos of the holes show the wings barely made it into the building?
[edit on 17-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]


Please post what you're talking about.



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
The prior frames show the plane entering the building from an outside view.


No, i was talking about the first set of frames that show inside the building. They do not show the nose, wings or tail coming through the outter wall of the building.




[edit on 17-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jfj123
The prior frames show the plane entering the building from an outside view.


No, i was talking about the first set of frames that show inside the building. They do not show the nose, wings or tail coming through the outter wall of the building.

[edit on 17-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]


Please post what you're talking about. Thanks.



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
Please post what you're talking about. Thanks.


These frames show no nose, wings or tail coming through the outter wall.

i245.photobucket.com...

i245.photobucket.com...




[edit on 17-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by jfj123
Please post what you're talking about. Thanks.


These frames show no nose, wings or tail coming through the outter wall.

i245.photobucket.com...

i245.photobucket.com...

[edit on 17-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]


It's really hard to tell but what is your point?




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