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9/11 What evidence would make you believe in a conspiracy?

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posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 12:54 AM
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And I feel it incumbant on me that I point out the simple fact that using other buildings as an example to say that another building of a different design and nature of damage will react the same way is ignorant.
As I pointed out above.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by WraothAscendant]




posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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Believe whatever fantasy you want.
It's obvious no matter what I say it will be twisted to fit whatever you want.

And parts ignored. MASSIVELY.

Sort of like a woman saying someone has a chance in hell and that someone says "So I have a chance right?".



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant
Believe whatever fantasy you want.
It's obvious no matter what I say it will be twisted to fit whatever you want.


Its no fantasy, its called facts and evidnece.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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building codes for steel structurals follow a srict protocall

compesition for steel structure is rated for different burn rates according to thickness yes and its alloys

but regardless his buildis in his pictures where smaller and had thinner steel

But its fire was bigger and hotter or of the same temps at WTC

But yet only the buildings on 9/11 fell

when his buildings should have also collapsed u agree ??

or did thermo dynamics skip that day(9/11)



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:02 AM
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The buildings collasped due to the amount of damage sustained by the impact of the planes and the explosions that occurred upon impact. Don't you think a passenger plane is sufficient to knock down a building?

edit= additional thoughts

I am stepping out of this convo for now, I just think it is a bit redundant to keep kicking the same dead horse around, if a plane is not enough to obliterate a steel building at least give and example of what would, or why a plane exploding after impact into a building couldn't cause it to be structurally unsound enough to collapse. Peace.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by space cadet]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by plasmacutter
when his buildings should have also collapsed u agree ??

or did thermo dynamics skip that day(9/11)


Funny how no one will talk about the 1975 fire that burned for 3 hours in the North tower and casued no damage to the steel.

But we are supposed to believe that a fire on 9/11 that burned less then an hour was enough to cause a complete collapse.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:04 AM
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[edit on 23-3-2008 by WraothAscendant]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by space cadet
The buildings collasped due to the amount of damage sustained by the impact of the planes and the explosions that occurred upon impact.



What damage casued by the planes? I have shown reports that the buildings withstood the planes impacts.

Also rpeorts that state the majority of the fuel burned off OUTSIDE the buildings causing no structuiral damage.

I have also shown buildings that had longer fires and more stuctural damgage and still did not collapse.




[edit on 23-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
3. Reports state the majority of the fuel was burned off OUTSIDE the buildings. What was left burned off quickly.


Might check your numbers again, ULTIMA1.

example:

wtc.nist.gov...

Page 85-86.

Total outside tower:10,600 lbs
WTC 2 floor 77: 1,300 lbs
WTC 2 floor 78: 6,200 lbs
WTC 2 floor 79: 11,400 lbs
WTC 2 floor 80: 6,000 lbs
WTC 2 floor 81: 14,400 lbs
WTC 2 floor 82: 10,600 lbs
WTC 2 floor 83: 1,500 lbs
WTC 2 floor 84: 200 lbs

Total fuel weight: 62,000 lbs

Since when is 10,600lbs of fuel a majority over 62,000 lbs?



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:07 AM
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Did a PLANE hit it? Sorry for the one liner



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:07 AM
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u do realize it was a lattice structure right?

and that the hole made by the plane may have cause damage but if it was going to be from the plane impact it would have fall shortly there after


read some past post please we went over this


that hole was like punching a hole in a screen

dose your screen colapse?

No u just now have a screen with a hole in it

the building enginere of the WTC center already stated they could have taken multible hits

steel latice structures are redundant (they sread the load very very efficently



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by ULTIMA1
But we are supposed to believe that a fire on 9/11 that burned less then an hour was enough to cause a complete collapse.



Isn't that sort of glossing over the significant fact of a 100000kg object impacting at near 500mph prior to the fires?



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant
You actions in this thread ALONE shows how fanatical you are about this theory.


Yes i am fanatical about the truth. something people like you seem afraid of.

I have probably done more research then most poeple on this forum.

I have FOIA request into all agencies involved.

I have e-mailed companies that were at ground zero.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO FIND THE TRUTH?

[edit on 23-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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You actions in this thread ALONE shows how fanatical you are about this theory.
You have repeatedly called me to explain something I already explained.
You have repeatedly misintrepreted my statements despite me telling you multiple times what I meant.
You have repeatedly avoided uncomfortable to your stance questions.

I could go on but I am wasting my time.
But it's worth noting if you just did that to me.
You most likely do it more often then just with me.

Fantasies.
Your full of it and your arguments and demeanor show it.
If you can't see that for yourself or don't want to see that for yourself that is fine but I find it frustrating.

Especially from someone that claims to have "the truth".
And shows just how full of it they actually are.



[edit on 23-3-2008 by WraothAscendant]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:09 AM
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thats what i am saying the sheeple will always go BBaaaaaaa or ist NNnaaaaa



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Pilgrum
Isn't that sort of glossing over the significant fact of a 100000kg object impacting at near 500mph prior to the fires?


NO, since reports state the buidlings withstood the planes impacts.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by WraothAscendant
You actions in this thread ALONE shows how fanatical you are about this theory.


Yes i am fanatical about the truth. something people like you seem afraid of.

I have probably done more research then most poeple on this forum.

I have FOIA request into all agencies involved.

I have e-mailed companies that were at ground zero.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO FIND THE TRUTH?


[edit on 23-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:12 AM
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Do people even realize at the hieght the buildings where

the amount of wind shere force that was up there

they where 200 feet wide on all side

Imagine the wind load on it everday of the week

JUST WOW



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:14 AM
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LoL!!!!!!!
Your arguments are getting almost fun to poke holes in.

Read the whole damn thing.

Your not doing anything for the truth.
Your feeding your ego pure and simple.
The tactics you use show that.

Oh and I narfled the gorthak for the truth so naner.
And no that had nothing in the way of meaning rather than a statement on how I can claim things and doesn't mean they are true.

So whens your book deal?

Go ahead and get the last word I shall now sleep.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by WraothAscendant]



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 01:17 AM
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You know i guess some people just cant grasp scale huh

ULTIMA1 i think u r right on the money keep up the good finds coming dont give up i wont




[edit on 23-3-2008 by plasmacutter]




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