9/11 What evidence would make you believe in a conspiracy?

Maybe this will help people believe...I'm a young college student who loves to expand my knowledge of TRUTH

“Truth about the War on Terrorism”
By Rather Not Say
August 2010

War on Terrorism
What a joke
As the Bush’s and Saudi’s
Make billions off dead bodies
As 9/11 was a hoax
To get the Carlyle Group and the United Defense
To build weapons for the Bin-Laden’s and their trend
As they were big investors
In Bush’s companies and war schemes
Which they made billions from weaponry
That the U.S. uses and abuses
Killing more than a half million Iraqi civilians
Starting in 2003 for oil, gas lines, and fake nuclear crimes
Instead of finding Osama and his Al-Qaeda allies
So Bush invades Iraq who didn’t commit a crime
So Dick Cheney could make a New Iraq
And have Halliburton on his back
As they both commit war crimes
Leaving 5,000 U.S. troops to die
And leaving us all to cry

Start

With the anger from my past
And how I was put into a trance
From birth, youth, and my teen days
I pretend to be something that was made
From athletes, actors, and the media game
I strived to be the greatest thang
From looks to brains
Now I’m about to go insane
As I realize I was something I wasn’t
For caring about what people think
Instead of smoking weed and being a hippie

Now my mind is about to explode
For not giving a # no more
And seeing the truth in the world
And the United States fake wars
As 3,000 people died in 9/11
Which was staged from the very beginnin’
As you can see the bombs exploding in the towers
Killing our fathers, mothers, and children like cowards

Making me want to punch a hole through the White House ceiling
For lying and killing
Innocent Americas for no reason
So Bush, the Bin-Laden’s, and Saudi’s
Could win the whole lottery
And make billions on taxes
To fund wars to kill fake terrorist savages
While we create more
By killing innocent little girls
From bombs, bullets, and grenades
Killing hundreds of Iraqi civilians everyday
Making them want to get revenge
For killing their whole family in a day
As they are left cold and alone
With the will to kill or die a hero
For their families name
That is now with Allah in their dreams

Chorus

War on Terrorism
What a joke
As the Bush’s and Saudi’s
Make billions off dead bodies
As 9/11 was a hoax
To get the Carlyle Group and the United Defense
To build weapons for the Bin-Laden’s and their trend
As they were big investors
In Bush’s companies and war schemes
Which they made billions from weaponry
That the U.S. uses and abuses
Killing more than a half million Iraqi civilians
Starting in 2003 for oil, gas lines, and fake nuclear crimes
Instead of finding Osama and his Al-Qaeda allies
So Bush invades Iraq who didn’t commit a crime
So Dick Cheney could make a New Iraq
And have Halliburton on his side
As they both commit war crimes
Leaving 5,000 U.S. troops to die
And leaving us all to cry

Start Song

With the lies
I am forced to cry
For being so blind
As thousands die
From American crimes
As we didn’t know any better
But to protect our families
From evil terrorist figures

As Bush created the Iraqi War
When there were no missiles
Or a threat from Iraq
Who never killed any of our civilian dads
As we take all of theirs
From false leads and papers
That leave their college men in danger
As the troops bust in their doors at dinner
And point guns at their little sisters
As everyone screams in misery
Asking themselves why their family?

While we live the America dream
And don’t care about looking overseas
As it is really affecting our country
From the government taking our taxes for war
Intend of feeding our families who are poor
As we scrape by to survive
On food stamps and dimes
To give money to war crimes

As our country is not protected
With few troopers and homeland security present
While we leave our boarders open to terror
That is currently happening with the Drug War affair
Or Letting the Saudi’s, Al-Qaeda, and the Bin-Laden’s into our colleges
So they can think of new ways to dissolve us
As 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi’s
And the U.S. didn’t investigate any of their stories
For Saudi Arabia has invested hundreds of billions in America
Owning 7% of our economy figure

So of course Bush wouldn’t interfere
As he and his friends got $1.4 billion to share
For simply making weapons to create warfare
And make American’s fear
His game on the War on Terror
That has left our country crying, alone, and freezing cold
Through 9 years of winter on a downhill soar
That has killed and left many of your troops injured
As the War on Terrorism is Fox News top picture
To protect Bush’s Republican views and stories that are misconstrued
Instead of saving Americans or a few civilians
Who are dying on our streets and in the lands of the Middle East

End with Chorus

War on Terrorism
What a joke
As the Bush’s and Saudi’s
Make billions off dead bodies
As 9/11 was a hoax
To get the Carlyle Group and the United Defense
To build weapons for the Bin-Laden’s and their trend
As they were big investors
In Bush’s companies and war schemes
Which they made billions from weaponry
That the U.S. uses and abuses
Killing more than a half million Iraqi civilians
Starting in 2003 for oil, gas lines, and fake nuclear crimes
Instead of finding Osama and his Al-Qaeda allies
So Bush invades Iraq who didn’t commit a crime
So Dick Cheney could make a New Iraq
And have Halliburton on his side
As they both commit war crimes
Leaving 5,000 U.S. troops to die
And leaving us all to cry

End
The beat that helped me…
Over by Drake

reply to post by PeaceLoveTruth


Other than the many falsehoods in your post.........

Oh who am I kidding? Do you read anything other than conspiracy sites?

I am in College student so I read everything and never believed in conspiracies until hearing people real life stories about going to war, 9/11, corruption, government lies, our drowning economy, poverty, health care, astronomy, corporation, disease, human trafficking, UFO's, natural disasters, religion, science, math problems, media mind games, racism, global warming, fraud, lack of fresh water, extinctions, and etc.. My favorite word is WHY...and when you find the answer to your question by looking at both sides...it's amazing what the finally conclusion can come down too...and trust me half of my professors can't even answer questions I ask them because even they have lived a life of getting good grades, getting a degree, become a professors, and by doing all that, some still haven't had time to open up their minds and seek the truth of a subject they have been a professionals for many years(not say all Prof. are like that)...and it's scary how I am young and feel like I know more then Professors who are supposed to be teaching me...so to answer your question no I don't read conspiracy articles a lot...but form conclusions from what I have learned my whole life and what other professional have guided me toward from their knowledge on points I bring up or by reading books on the subject...

Originally posted by PeaceLoveTruth
Maybe this will help people believe...I'm a young college student who loves to expand my knowledge of TRUTH

“Truth about the War on Terrorism”
By Rather Not Say
August 2010

War on Terrorism
What a joke
As the Bush’s and Saudi’s
Make billions off dead bodies
As 9/11 was a hoax
To get the Carlyle Group and the United Defense
To build weapons for the Bin-Laden’s and their trend
As they were big investors
In Bush’s companies and war schemes
Which they made billions from weaponry
That the U.S. uses and abuses
Killing more than a half million Iraqi civilians
Starting in 2003 for oil, gas lines, and fake nuclear crimes
Instead of finding Osama and his Al-Qaeda allies
So Bush invades Iraq who didn’t commit a crime
So Dick Cheney could make a New Iraq
And have Halliburton on his back
As they both commit war crimes
Leaving 5,000 U.S. troops to die
And leaving us all to cry

Start

With the anger from my past
And how I was put into a trance
From birth, youth, and my teen days
I pretend to be something that was made
From athletes, actors, and the media game
I strived to be the greatest thang
From looks to brains
Now I’m about to go insane
As I realize I was something I wasn’t
For caring about what people think
Instead of smoking weed and being a hippie

Now my mind is about to explode
For not giving a # no more
And seeing the truth in the world
And the United States fake wars
As 3,000 people died in 9/11
Which was staged from the very beginnin’
As you can see the bombs exploding in the towers
Killing our fathers, mothers, and children like cowards

Making me want to punch a hole through the White House ceiling
For lying and killing
Innocent Americas for no reason
So Bush, the Bin-Laden’s, and Saudi’s
Could win the whole lottery
And make billions on taxes
To fund wars to kill fake terrorist savages
While we create more
By killing innocent little girls
From bombs, bullets, and grenades
Killing hundreds of Iraqi civilians everyday
Making them want to get revenge
For killing their whole family in a day
As they are left cold and alone
With the will to kill or die a hero
For their families name
That is now with Allah in their dreams

Chorus

War on Terrorism
What a joke
As the Bush’s and Saudi’s
Make billions off dead bodies
As 9/11 was a hoax
To get the Carlyle Group and the United Defense
To build weapons for the Bin-Laden’s and their trend
As they were big investors
In Bush’s companies and war schemes
Which they made billions from weaponry
That the U.S. uses and abuses
Killing more than a half million Iraqi civilians
Starting in 2003 for oil, gas lines, and fake nuclear crimes
Instead of finding Osama and his Al-Qaeda allies
So Bush invades Iraq who didn’t commit a crime
So Dick Cheney could make a New Iraq
And have Halliburton on his side
As they both commit war crimes
Leaving 5,000 U.S. troops to die
And leaving us all to cry

Start Song

With the lies
I am forced to cry
For being so blind
As thousands die
From American crimes
As we didn’t know any better
But to protect our families
From evil terrorist figures

As Bush created the Iraqi War
When there were no missiles
Or a threat from Iraq
Who never killed any of our civilian dads
As we take all of theirs
From false leads and papers
That leave their college men in danger
As the troops bust in their doors at dinner
And point guns at their little sisters
As everyone screams in misery
Asking themselves why their family?

While we live the America dream
And don’t care about looking overseas
As it is really affecting our country
From the government taking our taxes for war
Intend of feeding our families who are poor
As we scrape by to survive
On food stamps and dimes
To give money to war crimes

As our country is not protected
With few troopers and homeland security present
While we leave our boarders open to terror
That is currently happening with the Drug War affair
Or Letting the Saudi’s, Al-Qaeda, and the Bin-Laden’s into our colleges
So they can think of new ways to dissolve us
As 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi’s
And the U.S. didn’t investigate any of their stories
For Saudi Arabia has invested hundreds of billions in America
Owning 7% of our economy figure

So of course Bush wouldn’t interfere
As he and his friends got $1.4 billion to share
For simply making weapons to create warfare
And make American’s fear
His game on the War on Terror
That has left our country crying, alone, and freezing cold
Through 9 years of winter on a downhill soar
That has killed and left many of your troops injured
As the War on Terrorism is Fox News top picture
To protect Bush’s Republican views and stories that are misconstrued
Instead of saving Americans or a few civilians
Who are dying on our streets and in the lands of the Middle East

End with Chorus

War on Terrorism
What a joke
As the Bush’s and Saudi’s
Make billions off dead bodies
As 9/11 was a hoax
To get the Carlyle Group and the United Defense
To build weapons for the Bin-Laden’s and their trend
As they were big investors
In Bush’s companies and war schemes
Which they made billions from weaponry
That the U.S. uses and abuses
Killing more than a half million Iraqi civilians
Starting in 2003 for oil, gas lines, and fake nuclear crimes
Instead of finding Osama and his Al-Qaeda allies
So Bush invades Iraq who didn’t commit a crime
So Dick Cheney could make a New Iraq
And have Halliburton on his side
As they both commit war crimes
Leaving 5,000 U.S. troops to die
And leaving us all to cry

End

there already is evidence all over for example: the pentagon hole was too small for a plane to of hit it,where was the wing damage?, building 7 falling down at nearly free fall speed with no resistance?.

Simple, my best friend was on the enterprise in the med on 9/11 and that night they loaded up warplanes that went on a bombing run. It was secret but the deck crew noticed the planes went out with bombs and came back without them.

originally posted by: circuitsports
Simple, my best friend was on the enterprise in the med on 9/11 and that night they loaded up warplanes that went on a bombing run. It was secret but the deck crew noticed the planes went out with bombs and came back without them.

It's called exercises.
I've never been in the military but I think they practice a whole bunch.
Sometimes they do things called war games.
When they do practice I'll bet they do things like shoot bullets and drop bombs. Stuff like that.

originally posted by: circuitsports
Simple, my best friend was on the enterprise in the med on 9/11 and that night they loaded up warplanes that went on a bombing run. It was secret but the deck crew noticed the planes went out with bombs and came back without them.

Planes are not allowed to come back with bombs to the ship

This is the only evidence we need to see, and no one can debunk this:

Image Link: files.abovetopsecret.com...



Image Link: files.abovetopsecret.com...



It's not air pressure, they are explosive ejections.

a reply to: NeverHere

So want to prove that claim that it's not air pressure ?

a reply to: wmd_2008

So want to prove that claim that it's not air pressure ?

uhm....YOU prove it was!

that is how it works......those whom assert MUST prove

FIRST come the asserted claims pushed..now prove them.

besides, the 2005 NIST scientific investigation did NOT think it was air pressure....

The sources for the 'pressure pulses' that created the wide spread smoke and/or 'dust puffs' observed on multiple faces of WTC 2 is unknown" [NCSTAR1-5A_chap_9-AppxC p.412]

why is it e NEVER see a direct link from you...if you do point, it is to an ENTIRE body of work.....NEVER the item being discussed at the time.

but I can and do.

a reply to: fillerfish

bob can you recall under one of your previous user names you claimed that air had to be contained to be pressurused I gave a coupe of examples to show you were wrong.

I am going with a guess that NeverEver is also you so that is against the t&c's of the site.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: fillerfish

bob can you recall under one of your previous user names you claimed that air had to be contained to be pressurused I gave a coupe of examples to show you were wrong.

I am going with a guess that NeverEver is also you so that is against the t&c's of the site.

Excuse me? This is my only account and that was my first post on this forum.

You want me to prove it's not air pressure? Um, okay. It's an ejection from an explosion way below where the tower is being destroyed.

What you're saying is, some air 20-40 stories below the part of the tower being destroyed said "Hey everyone, watch this, I'm gonna travel down 20 stories and explode randomly in this section of the tower"

Sorry, but that's not how air pressure works.

Also, I believe air is transparent, while those explosive ejections are made up of pulverized debris. If air in the United States looked like that, you literally wouldn't be able to see anything.

You seriously believe that's "air pressure"? Okay, then prove it. I'm not the one pushing the official story, you are. I'm not pushing anything, I'm just telling you what didn't happen. Prove your theory, since I'm not the one providing any theory.

Also, I'm correct that those images cannot be debunked, since you didn't try to debunk them. We're done here, since you obviously don't have anything to add regarding those images.

a reply to: NeverHere

On mobile just now but I take it you are talking about the so called squibs well the funny thing is they DON'T behave like sqibs seen in demo videos .

I suggest you watch videos and compare.

a reply to: jfj123
Having decades of concrete experience; concrete doesn't burn, nor turn to dust in a fire.

The main structural integrity of the towers relied upon steel reinforced concrete, (does not burn) and steel columns, (does not burn).

Jet fuel was consumed in the blast, so what made steel-reinforced concrete floors, walls, ceilings fold down on themselves?

Pentagon had 3 "fortified" rings penetrated? That makes it sound like the wtc planes should be able to pass right through the towers and come out the other end with enough of an airframe to take out two more buildings!

and the obvious lack of wreckage in shanksville; gauge that against the plane brought down over ukraine.

"You're either with us, or against us."

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: jfj123
Having decades of concrete experience; concrete doesn't burn, nor turn to dust in a fire.

The main structural integrity of the towers relied upon steel reinforced concrete, (does not burn) and steel columns, (does not burn).

Jet fuel was consumed in the blast, so what made steel-reinforced concrete floors, walls, ceilings fold down on themselves?

Pentagon had 3 "fortified" rings penetrated? That makes it sound like the wtc planes should be able to pass right through the towers and come out the other end with enough of an airframe to take out two more buildings!

and the obvious lack of wreckage in shanksville; gauge that against the plane brought down over ukraine.

"You're either with us, or against us."

Steel reinforce concrete really ! Steel frame with a light floor mix concrete on steel pans that was 4 and a half inches thick that's all with some reinforcement mesh.

floor truss section

Do you think the only thing that could burn in the towers was fuel

No one has ever claimed steel burned or concrete burned !!!

I just love when people post with an air of authority but when you read what they say they don't have a clue!!!

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: jfj123
Having decades of concrete experience; concrete doesn't burn, nor turn to dust in a fire.

The main structural integrity of the towers relied upon steel reinforced concrete, (does not burn) and steel columns, (does not burn).

Jet fuel was consumed in the blast, so what made steel-reinforced concrete floors, walls, ceilings fold down on themselves?

Pentagon had 3 "fortified" rings penetrated? That makes it sound like the wtc planes should be able to pass right through the towers and come out the other end with enough of an airframe to take out two more buildings!

and the obvious lack of wreckage in shanksville; gauge that against the plane brought down over ukraine.

"You're either with us, or against us."

Steel reinforce concrete really ! Steel frame with a light floor mix concrete on steel pans that was 4 and a half inches thick that's all with some reinforcement mesh.

floor truss section

Do you think the only thing that could burn in the towers was fuel

No one has ever claimed steel burned or concrete burned !!!

I just love when people post with an air of authority but when you read what they say they don't have a clue!!!

You are welcome to drop a brick from the 75th floor, and if it turns to dust before it hits the ground, your science will be sound.

originally posted by: loveguy

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: jfj123
Having decades of concrete experience; concrete doesn't burn, nor turn to dust in a fire.

The main structural integrity of the towers relied upon steel reinforced concrete, (does not burn) and steel columns, (does not burn).

Jet fuel was consumed in the blast, so what made steel-reinforced concrete floors, walls, ceilings fold down on themselves?

Pentagon had 3 "fortified" rings penetrated? That makes it sound like the wtc planes should be able to pass right through the towers and come out the other end with enough of an airframe to take out two more buildings!

and the obvious lack of wreckage in shanksville; gauge that against the plane brought down over ukraine.

"You're either with us, or against us."

Steel reinforce concrete really ! Steel frame with a light floor mix concrete on steel pans that was 4 and a half inches thick that's all with some reinforcement mesh.

floor truss section

Do you think the only thing that could burn in the towers was fuel

No one has ever claimed steel burned or concrete burned !!!

I just love when people post with an air of authority but when you read what they say they don't have a clue!!!

You are welcome to drop a brick from the 75th floor, and if it turns to dust before it hits the ground, your science will be sound.

So much for your years of experience then eh!!!

Do you think thousands of tons of steel some of it falling 1300+ feet fell gently to the ground!

Stick to what you know a little about concrete!!!

All the concrete wasn't turned to dust and all the dust you see wasn't just concrete so again brush up on how the buildings were actually put together, steel reinforced concrete

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: loveguy

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: jfj123
Having decades of concrete experience; concrete doesn't burn, nor turn to dust in a fire.

The main structural integrity of the towers relied upon steel reinforced concrete, (does not burn) and steel columns, (does not burn).

Jet fuel was consumed in the blast, so what made steel-reinforced concrete floors, walls, ceilings fold down on themselves?

Pentagon had 3 "fortified" rings penetrated? That makes it sound like the wtc planes should be able to pass right through the towers and come out the other end with enough of an airframe to take out two more buildings!

and the obvious lack of wreckage in shanksville; gauge that against the plane brought down over ukraine.

"You're either with us, or against us."

Steel reinforce concrete really ! Steel frame with a light floor mix concrete on steel pans that was 4 and a half inches thick that's all with some reinforcement mesh.

floor truss section

Do you think the only thing that could burn in the towers was fuel

No one has ever claimed steel burned or concrete burned !!!

I just love when people post with an air of authority but when you read what they say they don't have a clue!!!

You are welcome to drop a brick from the 75th floor, and if it turns to dust before it hits the ground, your science will be sound.

So much for your years of experience then eh!!!

Do you think thousands of tons of steel some of it falling 1300+ feet fell gently to the ground!

Stick to what you know a little about concrete!!!

All the concrete wasn't turned to dust and all the dust you see wasn't just concrete so again brush up on how the buildings were actually put together, steel reinforced concrete

Do you think thousands of tons of steel some of it falling 1300+ feet fell gently to the ground!

No, I think it had a buttload of mass holding it all in one piece...core

The building's core housed the elevator and utility shafts, restrooms, three stairwells, and other support spaces. The core of each tower was a rectangular area 87 by 135 feet (27 by 41 m), and contained 47 steel columns running from the bedrock to the top of the tower.[48] The columns tapered after the 66th floor, and consisted of welded box-sections at lower floors and rolled wide-flange sections at upper floors. The structural core in 1 WTC was oriented with the long axis east to west, while that of 2 WTC was oriented north to south. All elevators were located in the core. Each building had three stairwells, also in the core, except on the mechanical floors where they were located outside the core

a reply to: loveguy

Well done how about tellings us something we don't know about.

Like what happened to your steel reinforced concrete claim