Sick n' tired of these gas prices! What can we do?, page 4
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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 04:08 AM by ambushrocks
I really do feel sorry for all the people who have these problems.

One of the things I read in this thread is that europeans shouldn't complain about gas prices because we earn 3 times as much. Now I can tell everyone that 3 times as much would be nice but it's not the case. However we do earn more. But...(yeah I know always a but) the costs of living are more expensive here too.

I used to have a fiancee from Texas. We lived together in the Netherlands for a while and got to compare things very well. But if you ad all the things up than things can be hard in all countries.

I do have some advice if you don't want to rely on the government to help you (because I believe they won't).

*smaller cars are cheaper in fuel usage
*getting a job closer to home if possible
*drive along with others if possible
*use public transport if possible
*bicycles!!! (here people will use a bicycle for distances of 5 mile... trust me you will get used to it)(also easy with finding parking space
)
*make your car as light as possible (clean out your trunk,strip unneeded things of your car)
*have enough air in your tyres
*combine routes (in other words, pick up groceries straight from work, drop of kids at friends places when you drive to work)
*if you buy a new car invest in a hybrid
*diesel cars will run on sunflower oil ( I don't know how well this is for your engine though)

I know the whole gasprice thing is a **** but try to make the best out of it and try to come up with creative solutions. I believe 90% of the people on this board to be very inventive, so let us hear your tips on how to survive high gas prices!


reply posted on 17-4-2008 @ 01:18 PM by Graber
Originally posted by horsegiver
reply to
post by jedimiller


Over here in England it's over ten dollars a gallon, has been for ages,


Exactly! most of Europe has been like that since the early days of cars. I'd say the key problem is that north american society has become way two dependent on oil and products based on it. use more bikes people!


reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 03:00 PM by Double Eights
Originally posted by Graber
Originally posted by horsegiver
reply to
post by jedimiller


Over here in England it's over ten dollars a gallon, has been for ages,


Exactly! most of Europe has been like that since the early days of cars. I'd say the key problem is that north american society has become way two dependent on oil and products based on it. use more bikes people!


The United States is not like Europe. We can't use public transportation or bikes or walking to get to work. Most Americans live 20+ minutes (driving) away from their place of work.

There is very little public transportation in this country, with the majority of it being in big cities. I don't have a bus I can ride from my house to work, nor can I ride my bike to work.


reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 05:31 PM by GradyPhilpott
There are five main problems with gas prices.

One is
competition for crude oil, which we depend on unstable sources for. Another is a bottleneck here in the US because of an insufficient number of refineries. The refusal of Democrats to allow exploitation of our own oil, both on-shore and off-shore is another. Maybe the most influential in the prices we are paying now is speculators in the futures market driving the cost of crude up beyond what it would be based solely on supply and demand. Last is demand.

What were people thinking when they were buying those huge gas-guzzling SUVs?

I have no sympathy for such folks.

For myself, I have just stopped driving unless it is an absolute necessity. I can go for days without even getting into my car.

It's not an ideal situation, but what the hell! At least, I'm not burning money indiscriminantly and if worse comes to worse, I can just sell my car.

But, be aware, there are problems with reduced demand.

After last year’s stellar profits, American refiners are going through a traumatic period. In a time of record gasoline prices, some of them actually lost money in the first quarter, and for virtually all refiners, profits are down sharply.

Experts say the refiners are caught in a double bind. The price of their raw material, oil, is rising because of strong global demand. At the same time, consumption of gasoline in the United States is falling as a result of slower economic growth and consumer efforts to conserve.

However much the companies would like to raise gasoline prices enough to pass along the full increases in oil, analysts say they have been unable to do it. Oil prices doubled in the past year, while wholesale gasoline prices rose a mere 39 percent.

www.nytimes.com...



[edit on 2008/5/20 by GradyPhilpott]


reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 06:21 PM by WalkOn
reply to post by jedimiller



There's only 1 way that you can help yourself and others to help themselves at battling high costs in the gasoline department.... and that is to realize that you don't "need" to drive. There are other ways of transportation in and around the city that you live in.. if in country... think Horse... but then bails of hay prob cost more than gasoline.

bicycles are another lost forgotten transportation...

Well, anyway, I'm sure what I have said has been spoken about on this thread, I just read your OP and responded without reading other people's responses... so if this is a repeat offender... change the channel, I'm sure there's something else out there we can complain about... like Why do the corps of America Outsource everything and then complain that the end product sucks? American Made Cars were the BEST!
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