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reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 06:38 PM by Dubyakadubla
Originally posted by groingrinder
Our soldiers should be fighting the oil companies here at home instead of the poor Muslims in the Middle East. I would rather see the oil executives die and have low gas prices instead of watching the Muslims die so the oil executives can get richer and we pay record gas prices due to their greed.
Remember that the oil companies are making record profits. HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY THREE MONTHS. I think it is entirely feasible that they could bring the gas prices down and enjoy slightly less profits. I HOPE THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY. Our boys in Iraq are dieing for the oil. Americans are paying for the oil company profits with blood as well as money.
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 06:41 PM by marg6043
reply to post by jedimiller
Well 4 dollars is going to turn into 5 after the dollar gets another kick in the balls with the next interest rate cut
I had a chain letter a week ago that is telling people to stop buying Exxon and Mobil to force them into giving away incentives to alleviate the consumers pocket.
But then again what other company sells gas in the US but BP and they are UK.
Well 4 dollars is going to turn into 5 after the dollar gets another kick in the balls with the next interest rate cut
I had a chain letter a week ago that is telling people to stop buying Exxon and Mobil to force them into giving away incentives to alleviate the consumers pocket.
But then again what other company sells gas in the US but BP and they are UK.
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 06:58 PM by marg6043
reply to post by dgtempe
I feel you pain, hermana I feel your pain,
but just look at the financial institutions with all the debt and collapsing the economy their CEOs
still reaping record retirement packages while America home owners are facing foreclosures.
Is this corruption or what, still the big fat cat get fatter while we pay the Piper.
I feel you pain, hermana I feel your pain,
but just look at the financial institutions with all the debt and collapsing the economy their CEOs
still reaping record retirement packages while America home owners are facing foreclosures. Is this corruption or what, still the big fat cat get fatter while we pay the Piper.
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 07:04 PM by Ahabstar
reply to post by Trance Optic
Shhhhh.
Actually I had that exact idea about 10 years ago. I worked on it so hard that it became the STAR portion of Ahabstar. (Standard Transportation from an Alternate Resource). After calling Ford R&D in Deerborne, MI to discuss it (young and idealistic) I started doing the patent research. Lo and behold there was that same idea patented (although with non-existing computer controls) in 1971 to a guy in Florida and I had a way to recharge the batteries while in operation based loosely on a bicycle generator.
So he question remains if an individual without a formal education can look at how different things work and develop an idea that was similar to one patented 37 years ago what the heck have top engineers been goofing off for all these years. The damn SUV are less fuel efficient than the Model T from over 100 years ago and we have known of the oil problem for almost 40 years now. Makes you want to pick up an axe handle and start busting skulls only you don't know who to hit first the oil companies or the auto industry...maybe that's why they ship all the jobs out of the country, self-preservation.
Shhhhh.
Actually I had that exact idea about 10 years ago. I worked on it so hard that it became the STAR portion of Ahabstar. (Standard Transportation from an Alternate Resource). After calling Ford R&D in Deerborne, MI to discuss it (young and idealistic) I started doing the patent research. Lo and behold there was that same idea patented (although with non-existing computer controls) in 1971 to a guy in Florida and I had a way to recharge the batteries while in operation based loosely on a bicycle generator.
So he question remains if an individual without a formal education can look at how different things work and develop an idea that was similar to one patented 37 years ago what the heck have top engineers been goofing off for all these years. The damn SUV are less fuel efficient than the Model T from over 100 years ago and we have known of the oil problem for almost 40 years now. Makes you want to pick up an axe handle and start busting skulls only you don't know who to hit first the oil companies or the auto industry...maybe that's why they ship all the jobs out of the country, self-preservation.
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 07:45 PM by aleon1018
In a strange way, I'm kinda excited in anticipation of a major change in power plant sources. Someone is going to jump all over this to solve the
problem. I have found a site on youtube about one Nano battery technology that supposedly takes as little as 10 minutes to recharge on 220 volts. It
supposedly has a range of up to 350 miles but I haven't yet understood how. Maybe it's also a hybrid?
youtube.com...
I have great sympathy though for low income people driving to work in cars they thought would deliver what they used to. Surprisingly some small cars aren't any better in gas mileage than some bigger ones. Also keep in mind that many of these lemons of small cars are costly to maintain. What auto manufacturer will really save us from the greedy oil companies and used car dealers sooner?
I've also heard of these companies starting up that do conversions. Maybe a conversion might be a cheaper alternative for most of us? Let's say you have a front wheel drive car and they adapt your rear wheels with an electric drive axle and install one of these nano batteries in your trunk. This could also be done on semi trucks. Tractor trailers could have brake regenerative charging systems on the trailer. They already make hybrids. Imagine how much a mile it costs to move freight around. I heard it was already over 70 cents a mile.
youtube.com...
I have great sympathy though for low income people driving to work in cars they thought would deliver what they used to. Surprisingly some small cars aren't any better in gas mileage than some bigger ones. Also keep in mind that many of these lemons of small cars are costly to maintain. What auto manufacturer will really save us from the greedy oil companies and used car dealers sooner?
I've also heard of these companies starting up that do conversions. Maybe a conversion might be a cheaper alternative for most of us? Let's say you have a front wheel drive car and they adapt your rear wheels with an electric drive axle and install one of these nano batteries in your trunk. This could also be done on semi trucks. Tractor trailers could have brake regenerative charging systems on the trailer. They already make hybrids. Imagine how much a mile it costs to move freight around. I heard it was already over 70 cents a mile.
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 09:11 PM by rikriley
reply to post by Trance Optic
Trance Optics, funny you should bring up magnetics I am using what is called an X-Chip, that looks like a hockey puck that uses magnetism and infrared technology that uses a self adhesive to attach to the bottom of my gas tank. WOW what a difference in power and gas mileage.
This is what the X-Chip does it uses the a magnetic field and successfully turns oil into tiny nano size particles that changes the surface structure of oil thus improves the engine, reduces emissions and raises fuel efficiency and optimizes engine power. This is a true nanotechnology product.
The problem is I can only get more X-Chips thru an incentive program with the company I am a distributor for and in other words they are not for sale to the public.
What I can not wait for is a product the company I am a distributor for has developed a device for a major major car manufacturing company and is being installed on most of their 2008 models. We will be the only company in the world to sale this device separately that connects to the battery and takes about 2 minutes install. This devise I am speaking of is not the X-chip by the way. The tests show on this new device, to be released soon, up to 20% savings on fuel costs thru scientific testing. Rik Riley
[edit on 16-3-2008 by rikriley]
Trance Optics, funny you should bring up magnetics I am using what is called an X-Chip, that looks like a hockey puck that uses magnetism and infrared technology that uses a self adhesive to attach to the bottom of my gas tank. WOW what a difference in power and gas mileage.
This is what the X-Chip does it uses the a magnetic field and successfully turns oil into tiny nano size particles that changes the surface structure of oil thus improves the engine, reduces emissions and raises fuel efficiency and optimizes engine power. This is a true nanotechnology product.
The problem is I can only get more X-Chips thru an incentive program with the company I am a distributor for and in other words they are not for sale to the public.
What I can not wait for is a product the company I am a distributor for has developed a device for a major major car manufacturing company and is being installed on most of their 2008 models. We will be the only company in the world to sale this device separately that connects to the battery and takes about 2 minutes install. This devise I am speaking of is not the X-chip by the way. The tests show on this new device, to be released soon, up to 20% savings on fuel costs thru scientific testing. Rik Riley
[edit on 16-3-2008 by rikriley]
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 09:17 PM by rikriley
reply to post by marg6043
marg, when gas hits $5.00 a gal. there will be marches on Washington to remedy the situation. The big problem is we in the U.S. have plenty of oil in the ground but are not able to drill for it because of regulations. Rik Riley
marg, when gas hits $5.00 a gal. there will be marches on Washington to remedy the situation. The big problem is we in the U.S. have plenty of oil in the ground but are not able to drill for it because of regulations. Rik Riley
reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 10:50 PM by EYEOFEAGLE
reply to post by jojoKnowsBest
Hello JOJO,
That is a good thought, and here it comes, but E85 is a joke. If you took every cornfield in the U.S. and planted fuel grade corn to be used as fuel, after you picked every kernel you could pick up out of the field the refineries could only make enough E85 gas for about 7% of the demand for gas in the U.S.. And after you go and buy that flexfuel vehicle, you are going to get about 6 to 15% less mpg's. That is the average for all flexfuel vehicles by all builders who produce them. So in the end you would be using more fuel than a regular gas vehicle buring regular gas and by burning more you are not really helping the cause.
Are you ready for this? If you really want to make a dent in the U.S. consumption which in turn would decrease demand and in turn would lower prices back to where they should be, about $ 1.00 gallon! (the good old days!) then this is the direction we need to be going.
Hybrid-Diesel!!!!!!!!! At the end of this year and maybe sooner, VW will be bringing their first production hybrid-diesel to the U.S.. When this car gets here it will change the way car builders think in the U.S.. This car will average 69.9 mpg!
If we took 1/3 of the registered private vehicles in this country and traded them for diesel's it would reduce the U.S. fuel consumption by almost half.
Doubling the mpg's and in some cases in certain vehicles close to tripple the mpg's. The technology is here now! We the people have to step up and demand that this be done.
Mini Cooper has a gasoline car that sells in the U.S. that gets almost 40 mpg. They have better things to come. Toyota, the prius! I hate to say this, but American cars are terrible. They break, get bad gas mileage and have the worst resale value out there. Most of the technology in U.S. cars that result in descent gas milage is usually foreign technology.
If indeed the U.S. car makers have the technology to make cars get better fuel economy they are withholding it from the American people. The Big Oil Co's keep them in check by writing them a big check. It is a sickening process. It is amazing what you can learn by spending half or your adult life in the military. When you learn how to look at the Big Picture from outside the box, you see things that the avg. person will not see.
If you want to check my info, go to the UK version of the jeep website. pick any vehicle that we have here in the U.S. and compare the stats. I just picked them because I own a jeep. You can try any U.S. brand that sells in the U.K.
The emissions are lower, the CO2 is lower and fuel mileage is near 30% better. The diesels are twice as good. Same car, almost double mpg's and lower emissions and CO2. Please tell me why we don't do more to stop this fleecing of America.
GODSPEED JOJO,
EYEOFEAGLE
Hello JOJO,
That is a good thought, and here it comes, but E85 is a joke. If you took every cornfield in the U.S. and planted fuel grade corn to be used as fuel, after you picked every kernel you could pick up out of the field the refineries could only make enough E85 gas for about 7% of the demand for gas in the U.S.. And after you go and buy that flexfuel vehicle, you are going to get about 6 to 15% less mpg's. That is the average for all flexfuel vehicles by all builders who produce them. So in the end you would be using more fuel than a regular gas vehicle buring regular gas and by burning more you are not really helping the cause.
Are you ready for this? If you really want to make a dent in the U.S. consumption which in turn would decrease demand and in turn would lower prices back to where they should be, about $ 1.00 gallon! (the good old days!) then this is the direction we need to be going.
Hybrid-Diesel!!!!!!!!! At the end of this year and maybe sooner, VW will be bringing their first production hybrid-diesel to the U.S.. When this car gets here it will change the way car builders think in the U.S.. This car will average 69.9 mpg!
If we took 1/3 of the registered private vehicles in this country and traded them for diesel's it would reduce the U.S. fuel consumption by almost half.
Doubling the mpg's and in some cases in certain vehicles close to tripple the mpg's. The technology is here now! We the people have to step up and demand that this be done.
Mini Cooper has a gasoline car that sells in the U.S. that gets almost 40 mpg. They have better things to come. Toyota, the prius! I hate to say this, but American cars are terrible. They break, get bad gas mileage and have the worst resale value out there. Most of the technology in U.S. cars that result in descent gas milage is usually foreign technology.
If indeed the U.S. car makers have the technology to make cars get better fuel economy they are withholding it from the American people. The Big Oil Co's keep them in check by writing them a big check. It is a sickening process. It is amazing what you can learn by spending half or your adult life in the military. When you learn how to look at the Big Picture from outside the box, you see things that the avg. person will not see.
If you want to check my info, go to the UK version of the jeep website. pick any vehicle that we have here in the U.S. and compare the stats. I just picked them because I own a jeep. You can try any U.S. brand that sells in the U.K.
The emissions are lower, the CO2 is lower and fuel mileage is near 30% better. The diesels are twice as good. Same car, almost double mpg's and lower emissions and CO2. Please tell me why we don't do more to stop this fleecing of America.
GODSPEED JOJO,
EYEOFEAGLE
reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 04:26 AM by almeister 5000
reply to post by jedimiller
Dunno where you got the idea that we earn "triple" to what you do.
www.ssa.gov...
That website shows that the annual "AVERAGE" US income is $38,651.41
www.statistics.gov.uk...
And that website shows that the weekly "AVERAGE" UK income is £457
I'll do the maths for you. £457 * 52 (weeks in the year) = £23,764
Going by the current exchange rate that would make people in the UK earning roughly $47528. Meaning we earn on "AVERAGE" $8877 more than you a year.
Hardly triple is it? So lets look at petrol prices. You say its $4 a (US)gallon over here around $8 a (US)gallon. I am using US gallons as ours in a different measurement.
So this is a double in Petrol price when we earn $8877 more.
More calculations will say that at $4 a (US)gallon you can buy in a year 9662.75 gallons of petrol a year.
We can buy 5941 gallons a year at $8 a (US)gallon. We do pay more than you by alot.
Thats the proof for everyone like dgtempe who say they are tired of hearing how people have it worse when we have such a higher standard of living.
By the by I too hate these shocking prices but most of it is down to Tax in the UK so its all down to the government.
Laters!
Dunno where you got the idea that we earn "triple" to what you do.
www.ssa.gov...
That website shows that the annual "AVERAGE" US income is $38,651.41
www.statistics.gov.uk...
And that website shows that the weekly "AVERAGE" UK income is £457
I'll do the maths for you. £457 * 52 (weeks in the year) = £23,764
Going by the current exchange rate that would make people in the UK earning roughly $47528. Meaning we earn on "AVERAGE" $8877 more than you a year.
Hardly triple is it? So lets look at petrol prices. You say its $4 a (US)gallon over here around $8 a (US)gallon. I am using US gallons as ours in a different measurement.
So this is a double in Petrol price when we earn $8877 more.
More calculations will say that at $4 a (US)gallon you can buy in a year 9662.75 gallons of petrol a year.
We can buy 5941 gallons a year at $8 a (US)gallon. We do pay more than you by alot.
Thats the proof for everyone like dgtempe who say they are tired of hearing how people have it worse when we have such a higher standard of living.
By the by I too hate these shocking prices but most of it is down to Tax in the UK so its all down to the government.
Laters!
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