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reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 08:55 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by jmdewey60


Something like that is best left hidden, even if the best of men found it, unless he hid it again, it would be used for the best intentions, or purposely misused.


reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 12:08 AM by helen670
reply to post by Zealott


Hi Zealot/

To be a Christian is to have the belief in Jesus Christ as God.
God came and took flesh and became Man,He became the Second Adam and the Theotokos(Mother of God)became the Second Woman.
Christians are those that follow Christ.
Jesus Christ as prophesied was crucified and Resurrected.
His Resurrection is what united all mankind as it was from the beginning when God created Man all perfect and without fault.
Sin was the 'break away' from God in the garden of Eden.God created man and gave man a choice to live in rightiousness,man disobeyed God(the one Commandment) and 'Sin' caused all things created good to become not perfect....this was the result man breaking away from God.
Therefore,the Crucifiction and Reresurrection happened as prophesied by the Old Testament prophets and once again man was united with God, as it was before the fall.
Jesus Christ's Resurrection was just that!
His Body(earthly body as 'The Son') and soul was taken up into the heavens.His Second coming will be the Judgment of all mankind,and then His Kingdom shall have no end(The Creed of all Christians)
The Cloning of Jesus Christ,cannot happen because there is nothing to clone...there is no Body!
If there is a theory behind the cloning of Jesus Christ, it is a false one!
We know that there are false prophets and false teachings for those that do not listen and understand what the Apostles of Jesus Christ had said....hold onto what those teachings are,then,one cannnot stray from the Truth.
As for the Antichrist and cloning, this is definately a possibility.
The Antichrist will be a man(not the devil) with all evil in him from birth(as the teachings of the Ancient early fathers of Christianity have prophesied)He will be similar in appearance and also in years.He shall do all he has to for acceptance of teh people,for he will be loved for being charitable and meek, but all of this will be false illusions and false claims once he is in power!
(there's more on the subject, but for another thread)

IX
helen


reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 07:56 AM by mortalengine
reply to post by Zealott


If he was cloned, you would have nothing more than a clone of the person Jesus/Jeshua ben Joseph - son of Joseph and Mary.

What made Jesus special was most definately not his blood or genetics.


reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 10:58 AM by runetang
the replies in this thread are sounding more and more like Arius' view on the original Jesus, that he was a man, it was not his blood or genetics which gave him his abilities, rather a special connection with God, and so the Holy Spirit was working through Jesus at the request OF Jesus, whenever he performed a miracle, a healing, or a raising of the dead. He didn't sit there and ask God, hey can you help me do this now? But rather, God knew from Jesus' INTENT and BELIEF to heal and that he will do so because he believes, this is how God "knew" to bestow Jesus with the Holy Spirit abilities, to perform miracles, seemingly on tap. The connection was ever present, like a secure telephone line directly to the President so to speak.

And this, in a nut shell, is Arian Christianity. Arius said Jesus and God were not of the same essence, meaning that they are two seperate beings, that God, the creator, created Jesus. God very well may have created Jesus' spirit before the creation (read: universe and the common reality of existence), or maybe after, but in either case, Jesus essence came from God, after God, and was not God embodied; Jesus was not a flesh vessel of God incarnate. Jesus does not equal God in the literal sense.

Now, if only a Muslim could convince me that the Crucifixion never happened, then my belief would effectively mirror the Muslim view of Jesus, or Isa as he is known in the Quran. But I know and believe he was indeed crucified, and doing so created a "traumatic incident" in history ever since to the point where it has impacted the psyche of the original first followers, and then through the narrative to all Christians unto this day, i dont really think it couldve been a mistake in the text, rather, it sounds like Muhammad changed the story in the Islamic version.

[edit on 3/17/2008 by runetang]
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