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Debunking Popular Mechanics?: They lied. FAA Concedes No Such data exists.

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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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Debunking Popular Mechanics?: PM Book Alleges FAA Source For Statistical Data; FAA Concedes No Such Data Records Exist.

Aidan Monaghan
911 Blogger
Saturday, March 15, 2008

Beginning on page 22 of a Popular Mechanics 2006 book entitled Debunking 9/11 Myths, containing a forward comment by Republican presidential candidate John McCain, an attempt is made to clarify the role played by potential military aircraft intercepts during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Citing unnamed sources, part of this section reads as follows:

When contacted by Popular Mechanics, spokesmen for NORAD and the FAA clarified their remarks by noting that scrambles were routine, but intercepts were not - especially over the continental United States


However, according to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Freedom of Information Act response dated March 3, 2008, the FAA concedes that records for the information alleged in part by Popular Mechanics' unnamed FAA source, do not exist.





Popular mechanics is linked to Michael Chertoff, Naudet brothers, loose change, pod people.
As you will come to understand.

The perps have installed pseudo-skepticks to troll forums and tow the official 911 conspiracy that 19 arab hijackers did 9/11 when all the evidence says that Israel, France, Germany played a hand in it aswell.

Anyone who defends popular science's fake 'debunking 911 myths" has proven themselves to be aiding the terrorists and guilty of the death of innocent good americans and Iraqi's.link

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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 06:49 PM
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Haha, another nail in the coffin of that CIA/DHS disinformation.

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[edit on 16-3-2008 by NGC2736]



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 07:03 PM
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Where are the JTF'ers to debunk this one?
I wonder if we'll see any of the usual suspects trolling on this post.
...somehow I doubt it.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 10:15 PM
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Interesting! I haven't heard much from skeptic's side on this, but Popular Mechanics definitely looks like they have zero credibility.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 10:29 PM
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What am I missing here?

Popular Mechanics uses unnamed FAA and NORAD spokesmen in their book.

The FAA denies keeping records and that equates into Popular Mechanics been a bunch of liars???

In order for Popular Mechanics to be liars, they would've had to state that they used FAA records as evidence. They did not.

Did the FAA deny that Popular Mechanics had spoken to spokesmen?

What about NORAD, have they denied anything?



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 10:45 PM
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not true. popular mechanics is making claims that the information they provide is evidence that the conspiracy theories are wrong.
and then they provide non-evidence disguised as authoritarian evidence. that is deception. 'lying'.

the CIA and chertoff moved into popular mechanics offices, and fired a bunch of people, and THEN they did the hit piece on conspiracy theory.

their 'science' is not science and disproves nothing. it is mere spin. even the NIST report falls far short of any PERTINENT scientific evaluation, and has zero repeatability, making it NOT SCIENCE.

who doesn't 'get' that the chertoffs are from the same bloodline as the original YELLOW JOURNALIST, william randolph hearst? one of them is at popular mechanics, and the other, the head of homeland security.

hello!? is this thing on???

the ties that bind



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 12:26 AM
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The guy that did the story in popular mechanics is related to bush so there you go?


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posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 09:02 AM
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not true. popular mechanics is making claims that the information they provide is evidence that the conspiracy theories are wrong.
and then they provide non-evidence disguised as authoritarian evidence. that is deception. 'lying'.

Popular Mechanics never claimed that they had FAA records as proof. The FAA does not keep records. How were they lying again?


who doesn't 'get' that the chertoffs are from the same bloodline as the original YELLOW JOURNALIST, william randolph hearst? one of them is at popular mechanics, and the other, the head of homeland security.
How did the link between Benjamin Chertoff and Michael Chertoff come to light? Oh yeah, I know, through fugitive Chris Bollyn, who called Chertoff's mother and asked if the two were related. She replied with, ''they might be distant cousins.''

Has he produced any documents or' records' to prove his statement? Nope!

That is a lovely double standard you have there Billy Bob.


hello!? is this thing on???
Exactly!



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by talisman
Interesting! I haven't heard much from skeptic's side on this, but Popular Mechanics definitely looks like they have zero credibility.


Poular Mechanics is owned by that freedom-loving bastion of truth, the Hearst Corporation.
Here is what hearst owns:

I can't imagine they would do anything immoral to muddy their name.
/sarcasm



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 03:20 PM
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Hoooooly Bujeebees stikkinikki you have just proven that 9/11 was an inside job! I just can't believe that the Hearst Corporation owns.... gaaaasp..... newspapers, magazines, and television stations. Who would've thunk it!

Can you prove that Popular Mechanics lied?


The author of the article tried and failed, as did Billy Bob, how about you?



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 03:31 PM
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Can someone explain or provide a link as to how Israel, France, and Germany were involved in 9/11?



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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reply to post by IvanZana
 


Make up your mind on this one.

You say the following in your "article:"

Debunking Popular Mechanics?: PM Book Alleges FAA Source For Statistical Data; FAA Concedes No Such Data Records Exist.


But then later on you say:

Anyone who defends popular science's fake 'debunking 911 myths" has proven themselves to be aiding the terrorists and guilty of the death of innocent good americans and Iraqi's


PM and PS are two seperate mags. Are you sure you read either of them?



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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Good catch Cool Hand....Wow that really convinces me! Ha Ha!

He didn't say PM wow man you are so right! Right right right!

Oh wow now I won't pay attention to the actual content of the article!

Help the Amazing Randi's legions have landed on ATS




posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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i failed to waste my time arguing with you. that's all.

the popular mechanics article has been 'thoroughly debunked' over and over.




'thoroughly debunked'

at debunkers.



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 09:38 PM
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the popular mechanics article has been 'thoroughly debunked' over and over.


That may be true, but the topic of this thread sure isn't one of them or the Chertoff silliness that you cited.



at debunkers all you want. Can you debunk my debunking or are you going to continue to site the lack of records to prove that Popular Mechanics lied about using spokesmen?



posted on Mar, 17 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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Oh wow now I won't pay attention to the actual content of the article!

Help the Amazing Randi's legions have landed on ATS


So how about a Leo, do you care to address the fact that popular mechanics never stated that they used records?

Or, are you going to poke fun at other members?

Just so you know, I consider myself an ATSer. I joined this site five months before I joined the JREF forum. I'm Also a Member of the Loose Change forum, are you going to call me a Looser?



posted on Mar, 18 2008 @ 12:49 AM
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"pull it"

davin lies about the "pull it" term, or, alternatively, popular mechanics can't find even a simple fact. OBFUSCATE!!! OBFUSCATE!!!!

where did they get the original DNA to match against the terrorists', davin? EVADE!!! EVADE!!!!

popular mechanics LIES, period. i don't need to 'prove' anymore of their lies. a liar is a liar, and even the truth is suspect coming from the mouth of a liar.

but, for clarities sake, it's called "lying by omission", with regards to the FAA whatnot. the same as the alleged DNA tests which could never have been performed without originals to compare to. where did they get the originals? why did a bunch of the alleged terrorists come forth to testify that the rumours of their deaths were greatly exaggerated?

oh yeah, and it was only chertoff's mother who said they were cousins. she is totally unqualified, i'm sure, to make such a bold statement. i mean, mother's don't keep records of their families, so can she PROVE that they're cousins?

holy disconnect, batman, get the logic glue!



posted on Mar, 18 2008 @ 05:53 AM
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Are all of you f'ing mad? The title for the piece alone say's it all.

Debunking 9/11 Myths.

Only two words in that title and they both try and steer weak minded people to the lies. Wake*SNIP* up!!!!!
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posted on Mar, 18 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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The debunkers who upheld the official 911 story are increasingly looking more stupid and misinformed not to mention the dark, futile agenda of covering up the truth has become evident.

Remember at the end of Wizard iof Oz where the Dorothy is watching the 'Great wizard' lie behind the curtain?

We are now watching you people standing with your backs to us thinking your hiding behind a curtain, but you fail to see that we see you.

We wont forget you, for you will pay for every drop of blood caused in result of the lies you supported.



posted on Mar, 19 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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Remember at the end of Wizard iof Oz where the Dorothy is watching the 'Great wizard' lie behind the curtain?

We are now watching you people standing with your backs to us thinking your hiding behind a curtain, but you fail to see that we see you.

What a perfect analogy!

Comparing the 911 Truth Movement to a fantasy movie about a dream could not be more perfect. Bravo Sir, Bravo!


We wont forget you, for you will pay for every drop of blood caused in result of the lies you supported.

How are we debunkers going to pay for our dark crimes? Are you going to throw a bucket of water on us and watch us melt?!

How about addressing the fact that Popular Mechanics never claimed to use FAA 'records' to debunk fairytale myths?



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