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Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by idle_rocker
No all you have to do is read your bible. I assumed you had read a bible, but I guess not.
As I know the bible clearly states that at the age of 13 Jesus impressed the church eldlers with his vast amounts of inner knowledge of the scriptures. Such teaching would help the christStains out alot.
Why would you be conserned with his "minstery" over his teachings?
Originally posted by darkelf
There are other historic accounts of Jesus, if you wish to disregard Biblical text. Flavius Josephus was a first century Jewish historian who wrote volumes. In chapter three of volume 18 of “Antiquities of the Jews” he writes:
Originally posted by Neiby
Sorry, AshleyD, you're very wrong about this. There is ZERO incontrovertible evidence for a historical Jesus.
The people who simply believe the lies they're being told are the lazy ones.
The people who think reading a Josh McDowell book is sufficient research are the lazy ones.
In a day or two, you could find all the evidence you need to prove to yourself that there was no historical Jesus.
You'd also find plenty of proof that the New Testament stories, particularly the Gospels, are entirely fabricated. They're works of fiction written many decades after the alleged lifetime of Jesus.
And your statements in #2 above are very misleading. Perhaps this is a case of willful ignorance and sleight of hand on your part? There were a variety of similar god-man myths at that time, some of which were substantially similar to the Jesus myth. To claim otherwise is intellectually dishonest.
Originally posted by Osiris1953
As Odd is this may be I think I'm going to have to agree with Ashley on this one. It is laziness. I'm not a Christian, but I spend quite a bit of time studying religion. Although there are some parallels between Jesus and Baldur the Viking redeemer, these unending lists of pagan gods that share the same histories as Jesus are absolutely false. To me it's spiteful, these claims that Jesus didn't exist. They want to eradicate someone else's faith so bad that they are willing to lie through their teeth. It really is ridiculous.
Disproving Jesus' existence seems to have become the extreme atheists jihad, and it is getting a bit tiresome. Many people are behind this movement, and it needs to stop. If you want to tear down someone's belief structure, at least do it legitimately, and without malice.... if that's even possible.
Originally posted by Conspiriology
I was going to post in defense of ashley but I realize anyone saying what was said in that post, has his/her mind made up and doesn't want the facts. Especially when the lie is much easier for them to live with.
Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, ...Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.