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Originally posted by Annoyed
Pertaining to the subject of Original Sin, the show made reference to The Lost Sea Scrolls claiming Mary to have also been born “without the taint of Original Sin” because she had been born to a barren woman, by the Spirit of God.
It seems that Adam and Eve did not have children before eating from the Tree of Knowledge.
Our doctrine of original sin is not the same as the Protestant doctrine. "Original sin," with us, cannot be called sin, in the mere ordinary sense of the word "sin"; it is a term denoting Adam's sin as transferred to us, or the state to which Adam's sin reduces his children; but by Protestants it seems to be understood as sin, in much the same sense as actual sin. We, with the Fathers, think of it as something negative, Protestants as something positive. Protestants hold that it is a disease, a radical change of nature, an active poison internally corrupting the soul, infecting its primary elements, and disorganising it; and they fancy that we ascribe a different nature from ours to the Blessed Virgin, different from that of her parents, and from that of fallen Adam. We hold nothing of the kind; we consider that in Adam she died, as others; that she was included, together with the whole race, in Adam's sentence; that she incurred his debt, as we do; but that, for the sake of Him Who was to redeem her and us upon the Cross, to her the debt was remitted by anticipation, on her the sentence was not carried out, except indeed as regards her natural death, for she died when her time came, as others. All this we teach, but we deny that she had original sin; for by original sin we mean. as I have already said something negative, viz., this only, the deprivation of that supernatural unmerited grace which Adam and Eve had on their first formation -- deprivation and the consequences of deprivation. Mary could not merit, any more than they, the restoration of that grace; but it was restored to her by God's free bounty, from the very first moment of her existence, and thereby, in fact, she never came under the original curse, which consisted in the loss of it. And she had this special privilege in order to fit her to become the Mother of her and our Redeemer, to fit her mentally, spiritually for it; so that, by the aid of the first grace, she might so grow in grace, that, when the Angel came and her Lord was at hand, she might be "full of grace," prepared as far as a creature could be prepared, to receive Him into her bosom.
Originally posted by idle_rocker
Proudness and putting yourself before God is certainly the sin Satan fell into before his fall from heaven, and he coerced the two in the garden to do the same thing. This to me is the worst sin of all -- placing yourself in the center and not allowing God his due. Satan wanted to replace God.
[edit on 3/15/08 by idle_rocker]
Originally posted by mrwupy
Sometimes you do something that hurts another person. Sometimes you may actually do something terrible and feel horrible about it later.
It's called guilt.
Sin is the concept religion puts forth so that they can exploit the natural feelings of remorse you experience.
There is no original sin and you have never sinned against God.
Lose the dogma of religion and you will truly learn to experience the creator of all things.
God will not let you down.