Bush: I want the romance of war , page 5

reply to post by CreeWolf

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Cree, wow. I don't think you see how unimportant this is. Dem or Rep, they are all corporately driven. And we can argue all night about who is most morally reprehensible, but in the end, the bankers who own the corporations who profit most, are the ones calling the shots.

And so, though I am sorry to be so blunt, I also respectfully must make this point.

reply to post by Amaterasu

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I understand your point very well, but I was trying to stay on topic. I know how biased the media is; I know that things are screwed up when your average American can't run for President realistically any more unless they have millions of millions of dollars; I understand these jackasses are running our country into the ground; I understand the "good-ole-boy/in the pocket of lobbyists-mentality" of Washington. The point I have is that Bush is closer to a patriot than Bill Clinton ever could have been. People seem to have forgotten or don't seem to even know how crappy Clinton treated our military. At least Bush tries to support the troops. Clinton would just assume had spit on them.

MrsEsterhouse said

This President is trying to make war appealing to all the video game generation for recruitment purposes.

My response is "so what!?" Is it a sin to try to recruit our strongest and abled-bodied into our military? Perhaps it would be better to draft them in the future? My son wants to enlist out of high school and I support that (I'll probably try to discourage him if another Clinton is elected though). No matter how much others would have you believe otherwise, having a strong voluntary service military is a GOOD THING! Generally, they form more cohesive units and comradery, perform better, and are less likely to compromise each other or their service to their country. Many people still feel that way although you don't see much of that in this forum ((PS--I am NOT knocking ATS for that because I love this forum!))


George H. W. Bush's ride in WW2......

Where was Clinton?


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reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

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No, but nice slant. I'm implying that the stupid thing Clinton DID was sending our military to bomb civilians (and into harm's way) in Serbia to distract attention from the cigar play (tell me, why did we go into the Balkans?). The stupid thing Bush SAID is the whole subject line of the OP. Its pretty common knowledge that the Bush's (especially W.) aren't the most eloquent of speakers.

Edit: Sending our nation to war on false pretenses is another thread entirely. When it all comes out, you'll probably learn that what Clinton did to get us to the Balkans was more absurd than what Bush(s) did to get us to the Middle East. We've got more business there than we had in the Balkans. In case you haven't heard, there are some Muslims who don't like us and want to kill all infidels

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reply to post by GradyPhilpott

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I even saw him being rescued on film and was with smile on his face rather relaxed considering he was through trauma of shooting and loosing a friend.
All that and more is so strange and so well documented that it stinks on miles away.
Everything can be organized and staged just like bush Jr. pilot "carrier" and all past information that could and would compromised them.
His granddad was a Nazi and was supplying Nazi Germany war machine with almost 40% of heavy metal for guns and aeroplane industry to prolong the war.
Do you think that thing was not orchestrated by his men and so carefully recorded for us to support their patriotic and noble side?
Every shred of evidence can be staged and written down the way they want.
So sad People fall for patriotic BS so easy and forget who whole bush family is and what they represent and for what.
Your Granddads and Fathers have died in a WWII, from German guns, U boats and all weapons suppled and built by your metal supplied PERSONALLY by bush and Rockefeller's and few others who made trillions of $.
Hope they all die from a horrific, painful and long disease.

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Originally posted by CreeWolf
reply to post by Amaterasu

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I understand your point very well, but I was trying to stay on topic. I know how biased the media is; I know that things are screwed up when your average American can't run for President realistically any more unless they have millions of millions of dollars; I understand these jackasses are running our country into the ground; I understand the "good-ole-boy/in the pocket of lobbyists-mentality" of Washington. The point I have is that Bush is closer to a patriot than Bill Clinton ever could have been. People seem to have forgotten or don't seem to even know how crappy Clinton treated our military. At least Bush tries to support the troops. Clinton would just assume had spit on them.

Well, frankly, based on all the actions of the past number of administrations, none are patriotic. I find the idea that one scumbag being more "patriotic" than another scumbag almost humorous - if it wasn't so wretchedly disheartening.

Bush HAS to "support our troops" lest he have no cannon fodder. And his "support" comes in romanticizing war, being complicit in attacking us, throwing our troops into the flames to protect oil investments and create corporate contracts, lying about why we had to go to war in the first place.

I respectfully disagree with giving him any "patriotic" status. As for Bill, I wouldn't call him a patriot any more than Bush.

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