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Bush: I want the romance of war

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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Found another quote from Bush that is related.



"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."


I guess he didn't think he was ready for romance at the time.
www.villagevoice.com...




posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott


I think he was honoring our troops who are in harm's way and as usual those who hate the president seized upon his words to smear him as they always do.


Honoring our troops by making jokes about finding WMD? I dont have to tell you how many of our troops have died trying to find WMD. You are well informed and I do have respect for you. Yes I do.
But to say he honors our troops while in the same sweep he makes jokes about WMD not being under there, or over there? While getting the whole room he was talking to laughing.. I mean is that a laughing matter?
As a warrior, you know in you're heart that is hurtful.

In my eyes, he is a coward. And makes jokes to lighten the mood. When its all serious biz! How dare he make light of such issues with mere jokes.
He is our leader.. Not some guy to make jokes. Thats what Comedy central is for, or SNL.

If Bush would honestly get out there and fight on the front lines. My veiw of him would be very much changed. And he would earn my respect as you have. But the simple fact of the matter is, he has made some jokes in very poor taste. I have the video. But would rather not post it.. As it is hurtful to all who serve. And are serving now.

Much respect to you DancedWithWolves! Great posts in this thread!

I couldnt let that commet go by unchecked.
And please do know Grady.. I do respect you very much here sir. Its just you are sticking up for a guy that gets alot of well earned heat.
He is the one who put himself in his shoes. And I wont stick up for someone who is a coward, and talks a big talk.

We all know that his father was called a wimp.. And was the weak president at one time.. Even Time mag. had it as the cover.
And the Bush Empire is showing those who ever said that the Bush family is weak has another thing comming! Its never wise to show weakness in a time of War. I think that is the base root of this debate here, and why he said what he did.


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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by zysin5
We all know that his father was called a wimp.. And was the weak president at one time.. Even Time mag. had it as the cover.


At the time of his presidency, I was no fan of George HW Bush. In fact, I voted for Bill Clinton against him in 1992.

However, let us set the record straight.

George HW Bush was the youngest fighter pilot during WWII, flew combat missions off aircraft carriers and was shot down in the Pacific, being rescued by a submarine and was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his heroism.


While starting the attack, Bush's aircraft was hit and his engine caught on fire. Despite the fact that his plane was on fire, he completed his attack and released the bombs over his target, scoring several damaging hits. With his engine on fire, Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft.

However, the other man's parachute did not open, and he fell to his death. It was never determined which man bailed out with Bush. Both Delaney and White were killed in action. According to Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, Bush's fellow crewmen were cannibalised by the Japanese[1].

While Bush waited four hours in his inflated raft, several fighters circled protectively overhead until he was rescued by the lifeguard submarine USS Finback.

For this action Bush received the Distinguished Flying Cross. During the month he remained on the USS Finback, Bush participated in the rescue of other pilots.

en.wikipedia.org...


These are not the actions of cowards.

George HW Bush stood up to Saddam Hussein when Hussein invaded Kuwait.

That wasn't the action of a wimp.

There were many reasons why I didn't support GHW Bush's reelection, many of which had more to do with my own shortcomings, but it should never be said that George HW Bush is a wimp.

The man was skydiving when he was in his eighties and may be still doing so.

/ytw6gr

Time Magazine is a shameless liberal rag, so it's not surprising that they would call a decorated war hero a wimp.

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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 07:47 PM
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Lets get all of our troops home, send bush out with an m-4 and see how long he lives before getting captured and decapitated by terrorists.

Everyone knows this man doesn't care about our troops. He cares about oil, taking over country after country, and finishing what his daddy started.

A true coward.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:02 PM
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This all boils down to the person. I know a Vietnam vet that was in the USMC and served 3 years in combat. He loved it. Lots of medals, lots of killing. Then I know a guy that was there 12 months and maybe was in combat 3 times....he is a mess.....Just depends, there are close friends of mine coming back from their third tour of Iraq and they have no problems, other than the US media.....There is no "romance" in war. Just death and pain. some people are killers, others are sheep.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:10 PM
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Why would he go to Afghanistan and not Iraq? I think that the former may be a bit "safer" than the latter. Do we hear almost everyday about soldiers dying in Afghanistan? President Bush, even in this hypothetical comment, is afraid
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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Attari
I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed,"


Ohhh...such bravery!

Yeah right, who does he think he's fooling? Not only is he a Nam dodger, he isn't even brave enough to be on the frontlines of SMALL protests. He won't even face one mother and look her in the eyes and tell her what noble cause her son died for. No opinion, other than his own and his cabal's will ever get close enough for him to overhear.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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It is a democracy, bush can say as he pleases, as can anyone else, perhaps his feelings are true enough? You people like to make mountains out of mole hills...

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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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Bush has been reading romance novels featuring FABIO


How dare he use the word "romance" after so many deaths?

How does he do it? Does he not have a conscience? Is he really THAT stupid?

He certainly has fulfilled his romantic wishes over the past years, hasnt he.

Ignoramus.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:33 PM
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Is he serious ? If yes then that proves he is a puppet. If no then, he is totally evil to say that after Iraq



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Bush has been reading romance novels featuring FABIO


How dare he use the word "romance" after so many deaths?


that depends on how you define "romance?" Is it the camaraderie you develop within your platoon, and the civilians around you? The memories, and the stories that will last you a life time?

Or...

A sexual masturbatory term used to imply that war is great?



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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Knowing him, i'm pretty darn sure he's speaking

of the latter.

This is NOTHING for him to be saying, its totally out of line when so many families have lost their loved ones, as well as so many innocents because of his "romance"

BS.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 11:39 PM
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I guess the vietnam war wasn't romantic enough for him.



"mmm. that oil is sexy!"



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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He would have no intentions of going to Iraq/Afghanistan no matter what his age was, this 'romance' BS is just to impress the easily led, the easily impressionable . There will be dumb asses out there that believe in the 'romance' of war and that such an 'esteemed' man as the president would also choose to go under such a notion and then go sign up for it themselves . They don't realize the lie as told by a profligate and corrupt war criminal that he actually is, that it is just a cheap recruitment stunt.



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posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
lol

no im not paraniod im asking you wot you would do if you was attacked or your country was and you was incharge! all your implying is nothing at the minite!!!, because your saying war is no solution in a previous post, and it clearly is if its the only thing you can do should you be attacked? its the last option but the only in some case's i.e sit there and let extreamists plan attacks on your country because of your culture?

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I know this was posted pages ago, but I just felt I had to respond here. The reasons for attack have to be examined. If I'm walking down the street, minding my own business and someone jumps out to rape me, rob me, rub me out... I will defend myself.

But if you take the point of view of the initiator who is jumping out to do the raping, robbing, rubbing out, there is no justification.

So you ask about what I would do if personally attacked, and the only way I would be attacked is in such a situation where I was minding my own business (or minding my civil duty to be ever vigilant in defense of liberty and angering the evil-doers in that system).

Then you ask about my country and a situation where I was in charge. And here's where you assume that my country would be attacked under my lead.

The fact is, we were "attacked" on 9/11 by those in charge of our country. Under my lead, 9/11 would not have happened because I would not attack my own country.

The fact is that our service personnel are attacked in other countries because they very presence is seen as equating to rape, rob, rub out behavior. These attackers did not ask us to be there. We moved in. And we moved in on the excuse of the attack we - and not they - perpetrated.

So in their eyes, they were minding their own business and we jumped out to rape, rob, rub them out.

The only time war is any kind of answer is when we're walking down the street, minding our own business and we're jumped on. And then we can defend ourselves. And take the aggressor(s) to court.

Clearly, not Afghanistan, not Iraq, not Iran did that to us. So we have no right to be in any of those countries, raping, robbing and rubbing out.

Now I know that there are reconstructive efforts here and there, and I guess that is commendable, except that these efforts do feed US contracts...which was in large part why we attacked ourselves in the first place.

So I do not understand why you defend any of these wars for any reason.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 12:49 AM
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As far as I know, there's nothing romantic about war. I don't know how George Walker Bush Jr. would feel in the front of troops in battle, but I know that violence is 1 of the worst things that this world has to offer. It's nasty & horrific.

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posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:15 AM
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Bush should call my grandfather and ask him what it was like to walk over a sea of dead soldiers when they landed in normandy the day after. Ask him what was romantic about that. Ask him why he sits in front of the TV every November 11th with his medals and crys.

Any person who would make a comment like that should be ashamed of themself. Any president who makes a comment like that should visit a veterens hospital.

Im guessing bushy needs a few good men to sign up. The commercials that make war look like a video game or rock concert aren't cutting it anymore.

What's next another draft?



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:17 AM
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What's left? Well, actually, martial law is left. And then, they'll just take whomever they please.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 02:11 AM
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I'm seeing a lot of Bush-bashing in this thread (wow, what a surprise!!!) I'm also seeing multiple statements about Bush dodging Vietnam.

Well, all you Bush-bashing Democratic Liberal types, what was your boy Clinton doing during Vietnam? Do you even know Bush W. was flying F-102s in the USAF during Vietnam? Do you know the risk this predecessor to the F-106 posed to its pilots? I'd bet Bush would have lasted far longer in Vietnam than your boy Bill! Of course, Bill wouldn't have been on the frontlines in Vietnam (had he even the patriotism to give ANY military service). Bill would have been back in Saigon catching every form of STD imaginable and hiding under the bed everytime a firecracker went off 3 blocks away.

At least the Bush's served. George H. had a distinguished WWII career. Bill didn't even have enough respect for military servicemen to allow them to wear their uniforms in the White House.

Bill came to Iowa to campaign for Hillary. When the small town he visited wanted to continue a tradition they had for MANY YEARS of firing a 21 gun salute, they weren't allowed to because The Clintons forbade it.

I've got far more respect for George W. Bush than I do for any Clinton (or ALL of them combined!) A lot of you sound like old gossipy women with your constant Bush-bashing. At least Bush (both of them!) show respect to those that serve in the Armed Services under him. All Clinton could do was cut funding and downsize our military, while using them to wag the dog in Serbia to distract the media away from his 'fun-with-cigars' scandal.

Booh-waaaaah! Bush says stupid things. Your boy did stupid things!



Clinton couldn't fly these!

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posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 02:20 AM
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when it comes to romance and war, Bush is definitely gotta be a Minuteman.


All joking aside. This President is trying to make war appealing to all the video game generation for recruitment purposes. You know the games I'm talking about with all the sappy music playing as you put a person in your virtual crosshairs and pull the trigger. "Ooo, Headshot. I get 10 bonus points. yay! Maybe I'll enlist to serve my country to protect america's freedom."
This is also the same guy that will pick a fight with you in a bar for having different looks, views or opinions etc..



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