Is everyone on ATS dumb as hell?, page 7

Originally posted by WraothAscendant
Ok. Seeing as to how I didn't give you a fair shake much less explain my laughter at what I see to be your presumption (and impressive in a sad way ego)I will offer you an indepth analysis into what I read from your post.

Ah heck, I'll go ahead and give this a reply.

Perhaps I missintepreted you, but I think that highly unlikely given past encounters with you.

That could be the case, but I think you'd receive a lucid answer if you asked me instead of just guessing.

In this I see that from square one completely miss the point of my post.
Which I will explain now.
I was not commenting on how everyone is different.
I was commenting that everyone is different things to different people.
Usually quite contridictory to each person.

I know that. Can you see that I said to me no one is different to anyone? That context is the same context that is explaining everyone is something different to everyone. There's no misconphrehension here. Now how can you tell me that I missed the point of your post? I didn't, I accepted it and gave you a star for it and also added my own personal input because remember, everyone is something different to everyone, so by default of your logic I am entitled to my own, but then again you also embrace contradiction so I can see how you would be hypocritically unwilling to engage in my own thought process.

I don't pretend that I am right.

You sure about that? I see at least one place where you pretend to be right, doing such would equate into an assumption. When I'm right I know I'm right, and I don't have to pretend about anything, I only tend to the correctness. Is that ego? No, that is having fact and being confident in wearing its knowledge.

I was talking about the impressions others have of us and how they are almost inevitably different and unspokenly about how you can't be all good things to everyone.

Well this is why I magnetize towards people who don't care about good and bad, rather they care about facts, logistics and mathematics. Emotions are like blinders to intellect, they taint and poison the concept. I don't really care about being "good or bad", I care about being truthful and understanding.

Everyone's perception is different, some are simular yes, but still different even if its a simple matter of how they came to that perception.

In time they won't be, and at the core they are all perceptions, the same thing. Perceptions perceiving perceptions. The universe is the same to everyone, through they may think their individual experiences are unique.

In this sentence I see pure ego and calling your failure perfection.
In this sentence you claim to have advanced, even when you seem to have completely missed the point of my post and twisted it into something else that I can only guess at.

No, you're calling it my failure. I never called it my failure. Are you pretending to be right? You know what I mean? You're putting words in my mouth now. I don't appreciate that. If it doesn't fit your idea of success it doesn't mean it fits my idea of failure. Isn't this what you were getting at? Why have you failed so miserably at your own logical values? Or is that the purpose of your post? To prove that you can contradict yourself? I am perfect, whether you consider it failure, success, good or bad, I'm eternally perfect and you can't take that away, ever. Not through your judgements, not through your emotions, not through your insenuations, because you yourself are perfect, too.

Huh??????
I can see how you came up with this. In a weird sort of mindframe that largely has no bearing with reality.

You mean your perception of reality? Honestly, what is reality? Who here has solved the universe? Using your mindframe I could say that the statement you just made is egotistical being that you now dictate reality oh mighty one.

Or maybe your just guilty of oversimplification which is my theory.
Saying everyone is different does NOT equal saying everyone is the same. Sure it uses the same word. But the spirit of the word is something vastly different.

I don't deal with theories. They are incomplete and unsure when it comes to the end of the day. You sure its not something vastly the same? Yes, saying that everyone is different is saying that everyone is the same, you're just yet to see it and maybe you'll never go there.

A great many things are "different".
Can someone be fat and anorexic at the same time?
Soaking wet and bone dry at the same time?
Can something be safe to eat yet deadly at the same time?
Kind of like that.

Sure they can. Anorexic legs and fat belly. Soaking wet pants and bone dry shirt. Blowfish - sure you can eat it but it might kill you.

Yeah, kind of like that.

Okay, seriously. But the judgements you're now making are based in contradicting specifics and regulated time frames, or still time frames. So I concur. No, someone can not be fat and anorexic at the same time, but I never claimed that people could be simultaneously contradictive in whole, only in unwhole. So though we are different, we are all the same thing, I call that same thing the universe, energy, the eternal consciousness, even generalized logic.

Needless to say I find what you wrote to be little more than twisted logic.
What is different to me will not be different to you and etc and so forth.
Thusly NOT the same.

If we agree that we both have differences with everyone and everything else then we're the same, though our specific differences may differ, in general we are both the same experience, that which is a shared difference. We can also have differences in common.

Can you grasp what I am saying here?

Yes, sir. Do you understand me, too?

Thank you. I have been accused of having good insight before.
Most the time I think I am just a loud mouth over analysing baffoon.
Honestly.

I'd have to agree, but I'd compartmentalize you more into the great ape sub-species. I consider myself more of a chimpanzee.

In conclusion:
I dislike you. I make no bones about it.
I have seen you make such egocentric statements (multiple times) as: "You think that is why you're doing something. But you're wrong."

Many times people are wrong and they need to be or do stand corrected. I am not immuned to this process. For example, you're telling me that the way I go about things is wrong.

There is an implied superiority there with very little in the way of proof of that superiority that sets my teeth on edge.
As well as quasi-claims of psychic ability or something as if based off of one statement you know someones motivations.

I think you do the same. No, I am not "psychic" in that sense, but I have an ability to read people very easily, everyone does if they pay attention to character attire.

And that is not withstanding the times I have seen you wantonly misintepret every statement that you did not like.
Twisting statements of one kind into its opposite.
Usually semanticly and ignore the spirit in which those words are meant as if doing such is a sign of great intellect.
Which I find to be the exact opposite of intellect.

Okay. I don't recall doing this, but I'm sure there may have been times when I had misinterpretted the way someone meant something.

Take it as you will. Perhaps you will take this as the constructive criticism it was meant to be and learn something. Though I rather doubt it.
My guess is your reply if any will be yet another twisting of my meaning into a parody so that you can keep your superior view of yourself (unwarrented).
But I have been wrong before and people have shocked me before.
*shrugs*

I'm not here to impress you or to be liked by you. Learning is life.

[edit on 19-3-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]