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Fat? Blame urban planners

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posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 05:59 PM
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Sorry it's the late night syndrome. I'll make sure to read a lot more carefully at night. I'm sure you understand/




posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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Yes, I most certainly do. Thanks for your input though.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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I agree people do have to take responsiblity for themselves. In the US, an irresponsible person can easily gain a lot of weight and become morbidly obsese because most Americans do little walking (largely because of the way towns are now designed) and other factors like the foods that are readily available. In other countries, glutonous and lazy people still have to do a lot of walking to go to work, shop, and entertain themselves. They cannot walk into a fast food restaurant and eat a few hundred grams of fat and sugar.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 12:43 AM
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No. My logic says that if you're obese, it's probably because you're eating too much. And yes..Every man is an island (biologically and/or metaphorically speaking).


And why are people eating too much? Because they like being fat? I humbly suggest you read the thread I posted earlier, which explains how obesity is caused by a multitude of factors including psychological manipulation, addictive food additives, economics, nutrient deprivation, social conditioning, profiteering, etc.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 12:48 AM
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I think this study (although, most likely, correct) takes blame away from the obese. If you are obese (and this applies to addicts, too), have some self-control. I am under the impression that, if one truly wants to change, he/she can overcome any addiction. Am I wrong?




[edit on 16-3-2008 by they see ALL]



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:05 AM
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This problem goes far beyond addiction. Our food supply is being deliberately manipulated.

Fat people are quite literally starving to death, as I have shown in another thread.

It's like this. Your body tells you that you are hungry. So, you go eat something. It fills your stomach, but a while later you are hungry again. Why? Because the food you ate had little or no nutritional value. So you eat again when you should not, putting on extra weight. Exercising won't stop the cycle, only speed it up. You actually run the risk of becoming fatter quicker, as well as a more rapid onset of other health condidtions.

And this is no longer just about fast-food. Take the humble potato for example. The Irish staple for avoiding starvation.



Over the last 50 years the potato has lost:
100% of its Vitamin A
57% of its Vitamin C and iron.
28% of its Calcium.
50% of its riboflavin
18% of its thiamine


The source of this information is linked in the previously mentioned thread.




[edit on 3/16/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:11 AM
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It's definately a great topic for discussion but in my opinion, falls outside the range of the topic at hand. If you wish to start a new discussion I'd love to weigh in (no pun intended hehe).



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by jackinthebox
This problem goes far beyond addiction. Our food supply is being deliberately manipulated.


I don't doubt that. I have pondered about this and I have wondered if every food, as opposed to simply "fast food," is unhealthy for people. I am sure there is a big difference between McDonald's and food one would find in grocery stores, but I am also sure that there are many foods, besides "fast foods," that are very unhealthy. Is this a conspiracy to keep people unhealthy/sick? I might think so.


It's like this. Your body tells you that you are hungry. So, you go eat something. It fills your stomach, but a while later you are hungry again. Why? Because the food you ate had little or no nutritional value. So you eat again when you should not, putting on extra weight. Exercising won't stop the cycle, only speed it up. You actually run the risk of becoming fatter quicker, as well as a more rapid onset of other health condidtions.


That's interesting.


And this is no longer just about fast-food. Take the humble potato for example. The Irish staple for avoiding starvation.


This, too, is interesting. Why is this?





posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:15 AM
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Agreed.

I actually do have a well-flagged thread running on it. Please do stop by for a visit. The topic is very well debated. I linked to it on another post in this thread.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 01:20 AM
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This, too, is interesting. Why is this?


All produce is irradiated, as well as other processing methods applied. It also comes down to production techniques, the actual growing of the food.

This is going to sound really bizarre, but here's a little fact that might help you survive the unthinkable...

...If you were suddenly stranded with several other people in a place that had no food, be the first one to realize this and take action. If you wait to cannibalize someone who is suffering from, or has died from malnutrition, you will still starve to death.

EDIT to add: Re-reading this, I thought it might be prudent to add that I am not saying now is the time for people to turn cannibal. I merely wanted to make a vivid depiction of what is happening to our food supply, and what the consequences actually are. Even the unthinkable might not save you. And this lack of nutrients is a very real problem right here in America today.

It might also be worthy to note, that the North Koreans have been forced to resort to cannibalism in recent years.

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posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 05:14 AM
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It's quite simple. Too many calories equates with putting on fat. Cutting down on the excess calories will result in the weight adjusting to a healthier figure.



posted on Mar, 16 2008 @ 07:45 AM
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I agree with the OP. I am originally from Europe. The first time I went to the states (Florida) I was shocked to see that basically you had to drive everywhere. Sure, their were sidewalks, but stores were too far to walk to. Also hardly anyone used the sidewalk. I didn't blame them. Long damn way to walk to get a pint of milk. No wonder there are so many fatties in the States.



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