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reply posted on 15-3-2008 @ 01:08 PM by whoreallyknows
reply to post by Qoelet


Hi Qoelet,

While most churches in the US aren't as direct in saying they are a black or white church. Sadly Sunday morning is the most segergated hour in the US. Aside from the often corrupt large mega churches, most churches in the US are usually all white, black, or latino with maybe a sprinkling of people of other races. For example you can go to a average sized church that seats maybe 300 people and see two or three black or biracial families in an all white church. Or you can go in a church of the same size and see two or three white families or biracial families in an all black church.

So while his preacher is gaining attention because of his inflammatory words. It draws attention to the shame and stain on America that even after all these years we are indeed still very segregated on Sunday morning. Both black churches and white. And before people go screaming about how this isn't true and there church is mixed. I say yes there are SOME mixed churches, but across the country in most churches the American melting pot is not represented.

Another thing I wanted to ask is would this still be an issue if Obama was Greek and went to an all Greek Orthodox Church. Or how about if he was Jewish and went to a temple with only Jewish people. Or if he was from North Jersey and when to an all Italian mass. Or if he was a Southern Baptist and when to an all white Baptist Church. How about an African Episcol where the preacher is often white and the whole congregation black, whould that make this better. I'm just putting these thoughts out there to draw contrast not to start a race arguement. So those of you who like to spew underhanded racist remarks they are not needed.


reply posted on 15-3-2008 @ 03:42 PM by Sestias
Originally posted by Qoelet
Trinity United Church of Christ - About Us

Well it doesn't say 'No Whites' but yes it is clearly a 'Black' church... interesting as a European to see this ethnic Christianity, which is clearly wrapped up in the pre and post Civil Rights black experience. Does that make it discriminatory? That is not rhetorical, I am asking what people from the US think on this?


I don't think a black church, just because it is a black church, is necessarily--or even usually--discriminatory. It just ministers to a mostly black congregation.

Martin Luther King once said that Sunday morning is the most segregated time of the week.

It's true that caucasians and African Americans haven't integrated their churches to the extent we have integrated in other areas of our lives. I partly blame the white churches for not paying enough attention to the specific needs of the African American community. In the meantime, we don't call mostly white congregations(and there are many) racist, so why call black ones that?


reply posted on 16-3-2008 @ 07:13 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Sestias
I don't think a black church, just because it is a black church, is necessarily--or even usually--discriminatory. It just ministers to a mostly black congregation.

Obama's 'church' prides itself on being self segregating. It calls itself a 'black church'. In it's mission statement - 9 of the 10 items are black centered and segregate non-blacks out (support black business, be faithful to your true homeland - africa, etc). Blacks go out of their way to go there - even if they don't live in the neighborhood.

ndn.newsweek.com...

VOTERS REMORSE will be the most said phrase in the news if Obama is elected.

Originally posted by NewWorldOver
I don't care what church Obama goes to. He is not this nations savior.

You should.

The fact that Obama could sit through the crap that was spewed there .. sit through it for 20 years .. goes to tell alot about his beliefs and his own bigotry. The fact that Obama says Wright is 'like an uncle', and that Obama picked the words of Wrights sermon to be the title of his own book says that he agreed with him.

It's more than just the church Obama went to. He had a VERY CLOSE relationship with Wright. This is HUGE for a person running for POTUS. HUGE.


reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 06:42 AM by FlyersFan
Read THIS STORY

PROOF!

We all knew Obama was telling lies ...

Obama WAS IN THE PEWS (we knew it!)
Obama NODDED HIS HEAD IN AGREEMENT (we knew it!)

There is NO WAY that he was a member for 20 years and didn't know what was going on there. There is no way that he 'didn't agree' when in fact he was sitting there nodding his head AND donating money to this 'cause'.

Heck, even Oprah Winfrey (who was a member) had enough brains to quit years ago when the anti-white and anti-America bigotry got going. She didn't sit there nodding her head. She got up and left and quit the racist cult.



reply posted on 18-3-2008 @ 11:00 AM by whoreallyknows
reply to post by FlyersFan


Acutally CNN is reporting that the stories of him actually being there were indeed false.

CNN



Some old sermons delivered by Wright came under fire after an ABC News report last week.

Obama was not, as some reports placed him, in attendance the day Wright delivered his controversial comments, according to his campaign. But it would be difficult for him to distance himself completely from the retired minister of the Chicago church where Obama has worshipped for two decades.





But anywho, what do you guys think of his speech he made today.


reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 07:05 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by whoreallyknows
Obama was not, as some reports placed him, in attendance the day


Actually, the report says that HIS CAMPAIGN claims he wasn't there.
There are others who say they saw him there - nodding his head.
Others who were not biased.

READ THIS

This morning - Obama says that his church isn't a 'crack pot' church and he now DEFENDS that racist pig Wright. So much for Obama not being a part of that garbage. Obama's true colors are showing ... He's green (no experience) and he is a liar.
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