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Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by IAF101
The French did get democracy from America.
You are being ridiculous. France won its own democracy after it overthrew Loius VIX
Originally posted by chinawhite
America is the first truly democratic system in the world till date.
No it isn't
Originally posted by chinawhite
They not only talked about democracy they implemented it and built the greatest nation on earth.
You mean thieves and bandits trying to run away from imperial justice
Originally posted by chinawhite
Tonnes, Try Google!
Why dont you post the pictures here
Originally posted by chinawhite
Anything will do as long as it is independent, verifiable and non statistical.
The rules out statistics all together than
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by IAF101
Prove it.
ROFL, You made lied and tried to pass it as the truth. Truly pathetic. But what can you expect from a son of a thief
The pictures caption
A man lies injured in the street during street protests, Friday, March 14, 2008, in Lhasa,Tibet. Protests led by Buddhist monks against Chinese rule in Tibet turned violent Friday, with shops and vehicles torched and gunshots echoing through the streets of the ancient capital, Lhasa.
I guess you never actually seen a Tibetan before. They have a darker complexion,
Tibet has more mobile phone users than fixed phones users
According to sources from the Communication Administration of Tibet Autonomous Region, by the end of 2003, there were 270, 800 users of fixed phone in Tibet, and the mobile phone users reached 330, 900. The number of mobile phone users for the first time exceeded that of the fixed phone users.
Originally posted by IAF101
America helped them set up the French thrid republic government
A communist debating what democratic hisotry? Ludicrous. Read a book on US history.
You are mistaking Australia for America. There were no bandits. The early immigrants escaped religious persecution in Europe.
We have to rely on crude snapshots and photos from those few people brave enough to brave the Chinese "people's thugs" to take pictures.
But not from this riot. Like I said. Try Google.
Stop evading and present your proof already.
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by IAF101
10 people dead doesnt justify killing 100 tibetans.
UNCONFIRMED REPORTS YOU FOOL.
They haven't provided ANY evidence
The articles even say unconfirmed and you still use that number.
Originally posted by chinawhite
There are tibetans running around with Molotov cocktails, machetes or even guns according to some reports. Police HAVE EVERY right to protect themselves. Even though they have that right, there hasn't been any proof which suggest that they have actually fired and killed 100
Originally posted by chinawhite
Tibetans claimed in 1959 that the chinese killed 1.2million tibetans. The 1953 census has only 1.23 million tibetans. If we did kill that much it means that we depopulated tibet. But the population is 5 million
Originally posted by chinawhite
If this American forces, we would be killed 10 year old girls in the street
Originally posted by chinawhite
If they are so sure, why dont they let international journalists into Tibet to tell the truth ???
Oh, let me see. There are Tibetans running around with guns and we cannot guarantee their safety
Originally posted by chinawhite
Also prove that there is "mass proliferation" of digital cameras and camera phones in Tibet. How many foreign hospitals are there in Tibet ??
Oh my god. Try going to China
Originally posted by chinawhite
Tibet has more mobile phone users than fixed phones users
According to sources from the Communication Administration of Tibet Autonomous Region, by the end of 2003, there were 270, 800 users of fixed phone in Tibet, and the mobile phone users reached 330, 900. The number of mobile phone users for the first time exceeded that of the fixed phone users.
This figure is for 2004 only, and if you have a phone or brought a phone or will know they have a camera built in them. If you have been to china, you will also know that the percentage of phones without a camera is less than 5% because makers only make what the consumer want
Originally posted by IAF101
Where does it say it was a HAN Chiense like you claimed ?
Originally posted by IAF101
So is it not a phone ? There are many phones without a camera. Unless you can prove that at least 50% of those 330 thousand odd phones have cameras, it doesnt mean anything.
Originally posted by IAF101
You are the fool to ask for "evidence" when you barbaric government doesnt allow for any independent reporting of the facts!
There are Chinese military thugs in APC's and tanks going around Lhasa killing and attacking everyday Tibetans randomly.
I'm sure the Chinese would have us believe that the Tibetans came running to embrace that pervert Mao.
How can you have population reports for 1953 when the region itself was largely ungoverned and there was very little if any record keeping of births and deaths ??
Do you actually expect me to believe in Chinese numbers to be true when they ignore the deaths of 100+ people in riots
Sorry, I dont buy Communist BS excuses.
Nowhere does it say that they have gune.
Even if they have guns they arent attacking any foreign things.
"Oh my God. Someone has a gun in front of me. There's a group of about 20 people - two of them have handguns. They are walking the street.They're shooting. They didn't have uniforms, but the way they were in a group I thought maybe they were police. They went down the street and the first one fired, that's for sure - I think the others did; there was so much noise I can't be sure. Then some of the citizens threw stones, but not at them - in the other direction. So I don't know if they were police or maybe Tibetans.
"I have just been out to get my things. We are staying at the hotel tonight. There are still people on the streets but only Tibetans - if they see anyone
Chinese they throw stones.
"Three times people raised their arms and then when they saw I was white they stopped it. The thing that surprised me most was that I saw no police or soldiers.
"I saw three people assaulting a man - I was 50 metres away, but I think he was Chinese. They kicked him and then one man had a knife and used it. He was lying on the floor and the man put the knife in his back, like he wanted to see he was dead.
www.guardian.co.uk...
Isnt it a shame that 2 million odd military cant even protect a few journalists in Tibet from some stone throwing and arsonist mobs ?
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by IAF101
America helped them set up the French thrid republic government
Not even worth a reply
Originally posted by chinawhite
A communist debating what democratic hisotry? Ludicrous. Read a book on US history.
Who said im communist
Originally posted by chinawhite
You are mistaking Australia for America. There were no bandits. The early immigrants escaped religious persecution in Europe.
John Hancock IS A BANDIT
Originally posted by chinawhite
We have to rely on crude snapshots and photos from those few people brave enough to brave the Chinese "people's thugs" to take pictures.
Then the people throwing Molotov cocktails and stones at the Chinese police are the Bravest people in the world
Originally posted by chinawhite
But not from this riot. Like I said. Try Google.
And all I can come up with is "unconfirmed reports"
Originally posted by chinawhite
Stop evading and present your proof already.
Take your pick, im not going to group them into your favorite news sources
mwcnews.net...
english.aljazeera.net...
www.commondreams.org...
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by IAF101
Where does it say it was a HAN Chiense like you claimed ?
Because it says
A man lies injured in the street during street protests, Friday, March 14, 2008, in Lhasa,Tibet.
BEFORE the police arrived on the 15th.
Not to mention that no other "Tibetan" is helping him. I'm looking at CCTV right now to find a face for that name
Originally posted by IAF101
Probably because you cant give one due to your ignorance.
You have shown that you are a communist apologist here.
John Hancock is dead and never was a bandit.
Yes, bravest people in the world hiding in an APC from a Molotov cocktail.
All three articles say that the Iraq death toll is over a million. Also all of them are based on statistics which I said was irrelevant. Also I aksed you for proof that US military killed a million people in Iraq. It says Iraqi death toll in total. Not that they were killed by the US military.
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by IAF101
So is it not a phone ? There are many phones without a camera. Unless you can prove that at least 50% of those 330 thousand odd phones have cameras, it doesnt mean anything.
Stupid argument since you never been to china and seen the phones on sale.
Why dont you prove that it doesn't
Originally posted by IAF101
It says man lies injured in the street. It doesnt say it was Chinese . Also where were the police on the 14th ?? Are you saying that on the 14th there were no police in Lhasa ? Yet they Tibetan monks were beat up and arrested ? That means the Chinese police is pretty bad as they were absent enmass on one day.
Originally posted by IAF101
Since you are making the claims it is your onus to prove them.
The global mobile phone shipment in 2005 was 795 million units, 57% of which (about 455 million units) had the photographing function. It is predicted that 85% of the mobile phones will be camera phones by 2008 with a shipment of 800 million units; and the market scale of camera phone module will accordingly rise from $2 billion in 2005 to $4.8 billion by 2008, showing very promising prospects.
www.friedlnet.com...